Speculation: Blackhawks Shakeup
- Thread starter Kaners Bald Spot
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will get back to you if I think of something, but first impression is no match w/NYR.
Our key need is RD and you have those as do not touch.
Our key need is RD and you have those as do not touch.
McSpecial DraiBlend
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You wonder if they should explore trading Kane.
Could get a huge haul for him from the right buyer.
Could get a huge haul for him from the right buyer.
Crede777
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Something around Gabriel Carlsson (young LHD) or Sonny Milano (young F) + Riley Nash for Anisimov?
Both Carlsson and Milano are former 1st round guys with potential who are stuck in a log jam in Columbus. I think a change of scenery for either one would greatly benefit the player and the team acquiring the player while his value is down.
Riley Nash hasn't fit with the Jackets. I don't think he will recreate his past season with Boston, but he is wasted on the 4th line. I think he can step in for Anisimov right away and then transition to a lesser role as Chicago brings in young talent. That said, 2 more years after this one on his contract and his age make him a questionable add for Chicago. Same goes for Anisimov to Columbus.
Columbus would need to add salary going back to Chicago if they were to acquire Anisimov and Nash is really the only guy in the $3-5 million dollar range it would make sense to move. The others are either pure dumps or too valuable for an Anisimov trade.
Anisimov meanwhile could step into the 2nd line role with Columbus and challenge Wennberg for ice time which is badly needed. He also has chemistry with Panarin which is good in case of injury. I don't think he would convince panarin to stay, this is purely a hockey move.
Both Carlsson and Milano are former 1st round guys with potential who are stuck in a log jam in Columbus. I think a change of scenery for either one would greatly benefit the player and the team acquiring the player while his value is down.
Riley Nash hasn't fit with the Jackets. I don't think he will recreate his past season with Boston, but he is wasted on the 4th line. I think he can step in for Anisimov right away and then transition to a lesser role as Chicago brings in young talent. That said, 2 more years after this one on his contract and his age make him a questionable add for Chicago. Same goes for Anisimov to Columbus.
Columbus would need to add salary going back to Chicago if they were to acquire Anisimov and Nash is really the only guy in the $3-5 million dollar range it would make sense to move. The others are either pure dumps or too valuable for an Anisimov trade.
Anisimov meanwhile could step into the 2nd line role with Columbus and challenge Wennberg for ice time which is badly needed. He also has chemistry with Panarin which is good in case of injury. I don't think he would convince panarin to stay, this is purely a hockey move.
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Kaners Bald Spot
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Connor Murphy is a RD.
Would be willing to move Mitchell for a similar potential LHD.
Kaners Bald Spot
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We've discussed this ad nauseam and have concluded that the Hawks couldn't possibly get enough in return to make it worth it. It would have to be a stupid overpayment for the Hawks to listen on Kane. The only way he's going anywhere is if he requests a trade.
Drew311
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If they get to draft Hughes, having him and Kane on he second line would be big. Big enough to get them back to being a competitive team (with a couple other moves of course).
It will take a few years for the Hawks to come out of this. Everyone should be available to varying degrees.
Crawford: keep him into next year because they still need someone to play goalie and well he doesn't really have any trade value.
Seabrook: After he collects his signing bonus this July 1st is owed 24.5 in real dollars for 5 seasons (4.9M per) left on his deal. They need to look at how the Leafs traded Phaneuf but had to take on a bunch of useless salaries with short terms left from a team that didn't spend to the cap in Ottawa. They could also hope he develops an allergy to his equipment.
Anisimov: Should have some value around the league. If they don't get a decent offer for him just hold onto him into next year. He collects a 2M signing bonus on July 1st and then is owed 5M for 2 seasons worth of play which will make him very attractive.
Saad: No rush to deal him but he's far from someone worth protecting. He'd have trade value but isn't a core piece to build around either. Is a UFA in 2 years and it'll take at least that long for the Hawks to become good again.
Connor Murphy: keep him to build around unless blown away by an offer. If one or both of Keith & Seabrook get moved the D will be very inexperienced and it takes a very long time to build up a D group.
Crawford: keep him into next year because they still need someone to play goalie and well he doesn't really have any trade value.
Seabrook: After he collects his signing bonus this July 1st is owed 24.5 in real dollars for 5 seasons (4.9M per) left on his deal. They need to look at how the Leafs traded Phaneuf but had to take on a bunch of useless salaries with short terms left from a team that didn't spend to the cap in Ottawa. They could also hope he develops an allergy to his equipment.
Anisimov: Should have some value around the league. If they don't get a decent offer for him just hold onto him into next year. He collects a 2M signing bonus on July 1st and then is owed 5M for 2 seasons worth of play which will make him very attractive.
Saad: No rush to deal him but he's far from someone worth protecting. He'd have trade value but isn't a core piece to build around either. Is a UFA in 2 years and it'll take at least that long for the Hawks to become good again.
Connor Murphy: keep him to build around unless blown away by an offer. If one or both of Keith & Seabrook get moved the D will be very inexperienced and it takes a very long time to build up a D group.
valeriammm
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Kane is 30 years old no team in their right mind could cough up what the Hawks want.
Kaners Bald Spot
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Kane could be super productive for another decade. He has a similar playing style to Martin St. Louis, who was still playing at a high level when he retired at 39.
Sabresruletheschool
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Not to be an ass, but that is literally said about every player in their 30's by their fans.
And how many players are like Kane in the league?
Anyways, he's not getting traded.
DudeWhereIsMakar
Bergevin sent me an offer sheet
Saad was requested back to Chicago by Toews and Kane. If he goes it pretty much opens the door for them to get traded.
No point in trading Keith when you think about it.
Forsling if a team is super desperate for D.
Kruger and Seabrook will probably stay. The only way Seabrook goes is if a team is willing to take on his big contract and he is willing to waive.
Manning might be tradable, think he should've gone to Arizona with Schmaltz.
NYI:
Crawford
Murphy
Chicago:
2nd 2019
5th 2019
Washington:
Anisimov
Chicago:
Vrana
Conditional 2nd
4th 2019
No point in trading Keith when you think about it.
Forsling if a team is super desperate for D.
Kruger and Seabrook will probably stay. The only way Seabrook goes is if a team is willing to take on his big contract and he is willing to waive.
Manning might be tradable, think he should've gone to Arizona with Schmaltz.
NYI:
Crawford
Murphy
Chicago:
2nd 2019
5th 2019
Washington:
Anisimov
Chicago:
Vrana
Conditional 2nd
4th 2019
thesaadfather
Kneel Before Saad!
Crawford deal is an easy pass for the Hawks. I’d do the Anisimov deal, have no clue if Washington would.
b1e9a8r5s
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I wish the Preds would go after Keith
Edit: Just to expand before it gets crushed. I know he is old and we have people to resign. It's not a realistic scenario.
Edit: Just to expand before it gets crushed. I know he is old and we have people to resign. It's not a realistic scenario.
GoldenSeal
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The Hawks have a pretty solid core with an exception or two in there. Flushing the rest of the team out for picks and prospects could make them dangerous again in a very short period of time.
The problem is around here everyone equates 30 to the age where you're no longer good at hockey and will only be a waste of money for any team wanting to sign you.
GoldenSeal
Believe In The Note
The only reason you ever consider this is if Stan is planning to back up the truck and signing and outrageous combo of panarin + karlsson in FA
Of which just shedding the contracts for AA, Crawford, and Murphy begins to make some sense
I'd give the front office credit if they had a reload plan like that in place. They could turn the team around and reload the pipeline very quickly.
If they could move the Seabrook contract somehow, they're in business again
I'd be all for trading Crawford, AA, and Murphy for a slew of higher round picks. Between the three of them you could probably reasonably fetch maybe a first but certainly several seconds and several third round picks
migi
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GoldenSeal
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Hopefully they just keep playing him a lot to score pts (on 35 pt pace) and Stan catches some GM asleep at the wheel looking for a big shot who is a RHD
Stan just needs to swallow his pride and attach a higher pick or decent prospect and essentially get nothing back in return
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