Bill Peters Allegations - Update: Story corroborated, possible assault. (SEE MOD WARNING IN OP)

[Paul4587]

Im not a Flames fan and don’t know anything about Bill Peters other than from what little time he’s coached in the NHL but wasn’t Aliu the guy who has had issues almost everywhere he’s played and has played the victim card as to why he never succeeded in the NHL before?

Or am I getting that completely wrong?

I just find it so surprising that in this day and age any coach would be stupid enough to use that word and it seems awfully strange that the accusations are coming out years after it was meant to have happened.

 

[Janks]

Breaking News: Things were said, in a hockey dressing room, that shouldn't have been. You have to look where it's coming from. A washed up player that wasn't good enough, becomes keyboard warrior.

Doesn't matter man. You can't go around saying things like that - regardless of if Aliu was an all-star or an ECHL drop out. Hopefully the league and the Flames do their due diligence, get all the supporting facts and corroborate stories - and go from there. Really unfortunate situation - but if BP did go that route - then he should be let go.

 

[Body Checker]

In typical Flames ownership move Peters is fired and Babcock hired...………….

 

[DCDM]

Outside of Babcock, who is even available to coach this team?

 

[InfinityIggy]

Outside of Babcock, who is even available to coach this team?

 

[Mobiandi]

Outside of Babcock, who is even available to coach this team?

D Sutter is possible as an interim. There were some rumours that ownership wanted him back in the fold last season

 

[ESH]

I could see it. Not that I'm saying it definitely happened, but perhaps Peters tried to use it in a joking manner. Sort of like "Turn down that ***** music" or "Who's playing this ***** music?" That's literally the only context where I could see Peters use it and not get into trouble immediately, as Aliu was young and probably didn't know how to handle that at the time.

It's unfortunate that this is surrounding the team right now, and I'm sure there is gonna be investigation opened to see if any teammates on the Icehogs could corroborate Aliu's story.

How on earth would him saying it like that be any better? I don’t even understand what you think is a “joke” there

 

[Mobiandi]

Another black player speaks out

 

[Volica]

Reserve my opinion until we find out the full story.
- If it's true, no room for a guy like Peters in the NHL.
- If it's false... man... you could end a guys' career for less these days. I wish there was tangible repercussions for these types of claims.

 

[Unlimited Chequing]

Im not a Flames fan and don’t know anything about Bill Peters other than from what little time he’s coached in the NHL but wasn’t Aliu the guy who has had issues almost everywhere he’s played and has played the victim card as to why he never succeeded in the NHL before?

Or am I getting that completely wrong?

I seem to recall this about Aliu too, so I don't think you're wrong at all, though I don't remember all the details.

That said, I think one thing we need to learn from the #metoo movement is not to pass judgment until we hear both sides of the story.

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

Innocent until proven guilty.

Lmaoooo this isn't the court of law. Calm the f*** down there, Matlock.

Give Peters the boot. I couldn't stand the guy. Knowing he's a racist just confirms it.

 

[InfinityIggy]

Another black player speaks out

Hopefully Sean expands upon this.. generalities only muddy the water.

 

[Mobiandi]

I wonder if the league is launching an investigation into the Hawks org and Stan Bowman.

 

[Deen]

I don't think Peters lasts until the weekend.

 

[Anglesmith]

Hopefully Sean expands upon this.. generalities only muddy the water.

Indeed, and this basically seems to be the case of all pro hockey coaches. Hell, I've heard similar things about coaches for Junior B. Some of them treat their players like absolute garbage as a motivational tactic.

 

[InfinityIggy]

Indeed, and this basically seems to be the case of all pro hockey coaches. Hell, I've heard similar things about coaches for Junior B. Some of them treat their players like absolute garbage as a motivational tactic.

Absolutely. I think you could pretty easily argue that 'abuse' in that respect is actually pretty endemic in hockey, in general.

 

[Anglesmith]

Reserve my opinion until we find out the full story.
- If it's true, no room for a guy like Peters in the NHL.
- If it's false... man... you could end a guys' career for less these days. I wish there was tangible repercussions for these types of claims.

Well, realistically racist slurs are not against the law in and of themselves. Pretty much all professions would fire employees over it, but you can't bring it to the police as far as I understand. That's why officially-racist organizations are allowed to exist provided they walk the tight-rope of what is legal and what isn't.

 

[InfinityIggy]

Well, realistically racist slurs are not against the law in and of themselves. Pretty much all professions would fire employees over it, but you can't bring it to the police as far as I understand. That's why officially-racist organizations are allowed to exist provided they walk the tight-rope of what is legal and what isn't.

Yes, unless it goes so far that it could be considered a hate crime. What constitutes that is for people smarter than I to debate though.

 

[Kranix]

I get that the Babcock story probably prompted Akim to speak out on his Peters incident, but saying, "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree...same sorta deal" making the leap from Babcock the ***-hole to Peter's the racist...I don't think he's purposely equating Pyscho power-mad coach with racist coach but still

 

[Sparky93]

Doesn't matter man. You can't go around saying things like that - regardless of if Aliu was an all-star or an ECHL drop out. Hopefully the league and the Flames do their due diligence, get all the supporting facts and corroborate stories - and go from there. Really unfortunate situation - but if BP did go that route - then he should be let go.

You obviously haven't spent much time in many dressing rooms. I've been in quite a few that resembled the episode of Rescue Me- where they all got sent for sensitivity training.

 

[Negan4Coach]

Canes fan here. Have to say I'm kinda impressed how relatively reasonable the commentary is here regarding this event has been, unlike the festival of character assassination and false equivalency that ours devolved into:
Around the League 17: Don Cherry's Out of a Job and Kovy's About to Be Too

 

[Zirakzigil]

What Aliu did really irritates me. If it happened its inexcusable, and should of been dealt with at that time. If he didnt feel comfortable at the time, there are far better ways to bring this forward than twitter. I really hate the social mudslinging that happens with unproven accusations.

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

All accusations are unproven. Peters said this and still has a job, nearly a decade later. It's not because players of colour aren't speaking out, it's because the systemic structure enables this behaviour to go unchallenged. No coach ever called me n-word but none of my coaches were white either.

 

[IceNeophyte]

Edit: Comments by Sean McMorrow
Sean McMorrow on Twitter

I'm confused....I can't find a single pro year in which he scored 20 goals. He scored 10 in Abbotsford one year?

 

[InfinityIggy]

I'm confused....I can't find a single pro year in which he scored 20 goals. He scored 10 in Abbotsford one year?

‘on pace’ for 20.