Speculation: Bilingual Coaches and GM Candidate List Part 2

[417]

Who is the 3rd guy in on the interviews? Michael Lauduer?

Michael Andlauer

 

[CHwest]

For people pushing for Roy, what has he done in the last 5 years to warrant any consideration?

Speak the right language.

 

[417]

For people pushing for Roy, what has he done in the last 5 years to warrant any consideration?

Me it's less about what he's accomplished in the last 5 years...he's been running the Remparts for years, I don't think qualifications are necessarily the issue, again, at least not for me.

I just think most people who are pushing for Roy just want the nostalgia, they want the connection to our happy days, they want their buddy back with the team.

They want this organization to stay in the past.

 

[OnTheRun]

For people pushing for Roy, what has he done in the last 5 years to warrant any consideration?

Same thing as anyone else getting a look at every time a NHL team is looking to fill in a GM position.

Getting the job is a different matter entirely, but as far as meeting the NHL requirements to be considered for the job, then yeah, he absolutely does.

 

[Andy]

Same thing as anyone else getting a look at every time a NHL team is looking to fill in a GM position.

Getting the job is a different matter entirely, but as far as meeting the NHL requirements to be considered for the job, then yeah, he absolutely does.

Maybe I should be clearer: what has Roy done in the last 5 years that demonstrates that he should be a front runner? Meeting the minimum requirements shouldn't be the standard.

 

[sandviper]

Nobody is stupid enough to hire a clueless bungler for a GM.

Maloney enters the chat…

 

[OnTheRun]

Maybe I should be clearer: what has Roy done in the last 5 years that demonstrates that he should be a front runner? Meeting the minimum requirements shouldn't be the standard.

Same thing as the next guy.

Peter Chiarelli and Pierre McGuire are STILL getting interviewed for GM position. THAT is the NHL standard. In that world, Roy is worth a consideration.

 

[eklund the clown]

Maybe I should be clearer: what has Roy done in the last 5 years that demonstrates that he should be a front runner? Meeting the minimum requirements shouldn't be the standard.

Better than that why would Gorton want a hot head shit disturber to deal with.He would probably turn on Gorton and try to get Molson to make him the boss.We don't need anymore of the ex Habs making pretty to the french media.Haven't we had enough of this?It ain't working. Bring in as many outsiders as possible and weed out the cancers

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Nobody is stupid enough to hire a clueless bungler for a GM.[/QUOTE}

 

[ChesterNimitz]

You have far more faith in the higher authority's insight than I have.

 

[rickthegoon]

Speak the right language.

You're as predictable as old faithful in Yellowstone park.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

The thing that scares me with Marc Denis as a GM is that he might give a lot of attention to acquiring french players. More attention than needed.

 

[rickthegoon]

Me it's less about what he's accomplished in the last 5 years...he's been running the Remparts for years, I don't think qualifications are necessarily the issue, again, at least not for me.

I just think most people who are pushing for Roy just want the nostalgia, they want the connection to our happy days, they want their buddy back with the team.

They want this organization to stay in the past.

I think you have it all wrong. People who are pushing for Roy are quite the opposite . They don't care about staying in the past with an old ' glorieux'......actually, I think that people want Roy because they think that he's actually the one guy that could burn everything to the ground.
We now have an opportunity to see how bad , from the top veterans to the youngest prospects out roster is. This team is in dying need of a biblical kick in the butt. Everybody knows that Roy has a quick expiration date, but desperate times call for desperate measures.

 

[417]

I think you have it all wrong. People who are pushing for Roy are quite the opposite . They don't care about staying in the past with an old ' glorieux'......actually, I think that people want Roy because they think that he's actually the one guy that could burn everything to the ground.
We now have an opportunity to see how bad , from the top veterans to the youngest prospects out roster is. This team is in dying need of a biblical kick in the butt. Everybody knows that Roy has a quick expiration date, but desperate times call for desperate measures.

I respect your take but I don't think that's what it is personally.

This fanbase loves nostalgia...what's more nostalgic for Habs fans/media than Patrick Roy?

 

[Andy]

Same thing as the next guy.

Peter Chiarelli and Pierre McGuire are STILL getting interviewed for GM position. THAT is the NHL standard. In that world, Roy is worth a consideration.

You’re kind of proving my point by not providing anything tangible.

Other than his name, what has Roy done to make people believe he should be the front runner?

 

[CHwest]

You're as predictable as old faithful in Yellowstone park.

Thank you.

 

[eklund the clown]

You’re kind of proving my point by not providing anything tangible.

Other than his name, what has Roy done to make people believe he should be the front runner?

I don't know Houle and Tremblay seemed to work out.Since when does qualified have to do with hiring in Habsland?Hopefully(fingers crossed) this era is over otherwise we will all be back here in 2 years with the same old story

 

[OnTheRun]

You’re kind of proving my point by not providing anything tangible.

Other than his name, what has Roy done to make people believe he should be the front runner?

The answer won't change no matter how many time you ask the question.

Same thing as the next guy.

There is a huge failure to acknowledge that the NHL as a whole doesn't have the same rigorous selection process as the space program when it come to hiring people, let alone who they decide to consider for a job.

There is a lot more of "who you are" and "who you know" than "what have you done".

 

[salbutera]

Nobody is stupid enough to hire a clueless bungler for a GM.

I believe NHL owners hold MB in much higher regard than HFboards…

 

[salbutera]

I respect that he went back in there, did the daily grind, took the buses drives and made his classes as coach and GM. Not saying it was great success. But being a GM in Junior is essentialy take your chances for three years, then you go young and start over. It's a neverending circle and you simply cannot keep your players for long. It's different in the NHL where you can really make a difference and keep your core players for ten years and more and really build something. I believe Roy would make much more noise as a GM in the NHL than he did in junior. Plus for people that are so scared of him and his outbursts, other than his first few years, he has been rather a reserved coach and GM in the Q.

Dale Hunter followed the exact same path and has had significantly more success in London, yet stunk up the joint w Caps, and couldn’t wait to run back to his junior team.

It’s one thing to be the big fish in a little pond, quite another to be swimming with the sharks - nostalgia has a funny way of romanticizing and making one forget about that…

 

[vokiel]

For people pushing for Roy, what has he done in the last 5 years to warrant any consideration?

Complaining about not being considered without due process?

 

[sampollock]

I believe NHL owners hold MB in much higher regard than HFboards…

good then someone hire him

 

[eklund the clown]

good then someone hire him

I don't know what track record Bergevin has to warrant the high regard from NHL owners .Sort of like Roy being in demand for GM job here.

 

[salbutera]

I don't know what track record Bergevin has to warrant the high regard from NHL owners .Sort of like Roy being in demand for GM job here.

6-playoffs in-9 years, including Cup final and conf final, in the toughest media market in the NHL and a non-elite player friendly market as well (for the rare elite UFAs and those unwilling to waive NMC/NTC)

compare that success level to other GMs hired in same period, Nill, Chevaldayoff, even Sakic.

 

[CoopersFalls]

People are unnecessarily worried about Roy. Gorton is going to be there. The GM will have say but do you think Gorton is going to let him make any moves based off emotion? I doubt it. The guy’s a winner everywhere he’s been, in multiple roles. There’s other great candidates, but I would welcome him with open arms.