BAuldie
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I think a new proposal would bring closure on this either way. If it gets rejected.. bam season done.. or of course it gets accepted.
So they went from 'agreement in principle' to 'formal agreement' overnight?PitkanenPower said:You can't formally agree to something without something formally written. The proposal is a formality.
Which would mean that they've got an agreement that goes beyond 'in principle,' otherwise they wouldn't draft up a proposal to be signed.ceber said:Ok, then after you verbally agree, someone needs to draft up a complete proposal that can be signed.
Agreed. I hope that this is good news, but I'm not getting those hopes too high.Keep in mind, the only "source" I've seen that talked at all about new "agreements" has been Eklund. Haven't all the media outlets just reported meetings? Forget about Eklund for a bit. If you ignore his stuff this sounds like very good news to me.
Bennysflyers16 said:A deal in principle does have a lot of grey area. The grey area of a deal in principle never includes one side bringing a new proposal to the other. It's pretty basic, bringing a new proposal to the table means that the key points were not agreed on, and one side is altering their stance on key points and offering that to the other side. A deal in principle already has keys point agreed upon, there is no need for one side to bring a new proposal to the table.
I tend to disagree a bit. Let's say most things were agreed upon, I think the league would still call it a proposal, because if they called it a contract, we would all be peeing our pants with excitement, when the chance of it being rejected is still possible.
That is certainly possible. And if that's so, then it is like I said before, god awful reporting. The entire nation of Canada and millions of Americans are hinging on this, you've got to be damn sure what your reporting is as accurate as possible.HABSoluteDMB11 said:The deal in could be agreed upon in principle but the players want it in writing first to go over it with a fine comb so to speak. Could also be that was the lead the reporter got that the NHL was drafting something up that will be presented at the next meeting and the thing they were drafting up was the agreed upon contract?
ceber said:What do they sign if there is no formal proposal? I think maybe the word "new" is tripping some people up. It's new because it's different from the last formal proposal. Doesn't mean it's different from what was discussed in the most recent meetings.
Dr Love said:You clearly were taking a shot at me that I was implying that Sportsnet and 590 are correct and blogs are incorrect. Keep playing your games if it suits you. Sportsnet and 590's sources say one thing. Some bloggers with sources say something very different. A number of posters here are more willing to believe one over the other. Maybe people should take a step back and breathe.
Eklund is most likely a fake. IIRC he's the one who came up w/ the Pronger to Philly rumors at last season's trade deadline that I had so much fun with.NJD Jester said:While I keep my fingers crossed...
Here's the deal on Eklund -- he's most likely someone who is getting information from a source. Now, who that source it, who knows? But perhaps being that this is a blogger and not, say, Kevin Paul Dupont, his crap detector isn't quite as effective in figuring out the B.S. from the truth. Plus, he seems to print every shred of information sent his way (if he's not making it all up, which I don't buy that he is).
I think the people who have a beef with this guy have one because they expect what he writes to have some facual basis, when in fact he's the Matt Drudge of the NHL. (And Eks, if you're reading this and steal that last line as your slogan, I want some -- ahem -- "cost certainty" headed back my way.)
Benji Frank said:My thoughts exactly. There's been alot of give and take over the last couple of weeks. Sooner or later it's gotta become formal. The owners formalized it and will meet in New York to ensure that's what the PA understood was agreed to ... hopefully they then cross the t's and dot the i's and open the doors.
That to me, sounds like they've worked out an agreement in principle.......
Of course, I may have missed the boat entirely on this one.....
Son of Steinbrenner said:how come tsn doesn't have anything? is sportsnet a crediable source?
Son of Steinbrenner said:how come tsn doesn't have anything? is sportsnet a crediable source?
Juni said:OK, so if nobody's been saying anything, and very few/nobody knew where they were meeting yesterday, who or what are these 'sources' Sportsnet and FAN590 claim to have which backs up this news? There's not a solid quote from anyone suggesting a proposal is coming.
No. Eklund said that they said the lockout was over.Tricolore#20 said:Sportsnet likes to jump the gun a lot too
Didn't their website say the lockout was over last week?
lets get tonights game thread started :lolFinnigan said:Not sure if this has been posted but it is CP article. Talks will resume tonight in New York and another meeting is tentatively scheduled for Friday.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=112791
Sportsnet >> The ScoreDevilsfanatic said:Sportsnet is the worst media outlet we have.....they jumped the gun on Amonte signing with the Rangers, never happened. They said Nieuwendyk signed with the Devils again, it didn't happen. They are always so negative on their broadcasts, and on their websites. I go with TSN.
davidwii said:Good Lord. I'm getting so tired of reading about how no progress was made. They have met, what....a cumlative 15-20 hours and no progress was made. I understand this is just a bunch of BS...but still. Its like a used car salesmen telling you they can't lower the price anymore of they won't be able to feed their family...
Do they really think we believe they have met and CONTINUE to meet and no progress is being made WHATSOEVER??? IDIOTS!!!!
I will be so glad when this week is over, for good or for bad. Bring it back or Bring it down...just BRING IT!!!!
417 TO MTL said:Some people just can read between the lines I guess, some think they're meeting 15-20 cumulative hours, just for sh*ts and giggles...