Best players outside 500 goals club?

[begbeee]

No players who played majority of their career or had their careers before 1967 (no Joe Malone etc.), no active players in NHL (no Iginla, Hossa or even better Ovečkin and Crosby) and no players outside NHL system (no Kharlamov or Makarov).

And we are talking about forwards (so no Orr or Hasek).

I think:

1. Bobby Clarke
2. Peter Stastny
3./4. Lindros, Bure
5. Cam Neely

HM: Sergej Fedorov, Pat LaFontaine, Doug Gilmour, Adam Oates.

Discuss. Thanx.

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[TheDevilMadeMe]

I assume you mean forwards only

1. Bobby Clarke
2. Peter Stastny
3. Peter Forsberg
4. Sergei Fedorov
5. Doug Gilmour
6. Adam Oates
7. Eric Lindros
8. Denis Savard
9. Pavel Bure
10. Jean Ratelle

HMs: Cam Neely, Jacques Lemaire, John Leclair, Pat Lafontaine

 

[begbeee]

Alexander Mogiľnyj?

 

[The Grouch]

Players who deserve to be mentioned, but haven't yet... Darryl Sittler, Rick Martin, Clark Gillies, Bob Gainey, Theo Fleury, and Paul Kariya.

 

[matnor]

I assume you mean forwards only

1. Bobby Clarke
2. Peter Stastny
3. Peter Forsberg
4. Sergei Fedorov
5. Doug Gilmour
6. Adam Oates
7. Eric Lindros
8. Denis Savard
9. Pavel Bure

HMs: Cam Neely, Jacques Lemaire, John Leclair, Pat Lafontaine

Switch Forsberg and Stastny and possibly Oates and Lindros, otherwise that's how I see it.

 

[K1984]

Players who deserve to be mentioned, but haven't yet... Darryl Sittler, Rick Martin, Clark Gillies, Bob Gainey, Theo Fleury, and Paul Kariya.

Glenn Anderson needs to be mentioned ahead of many who were already mentioned. He's close though at 498 goals.

 

[The Grouch]

Glenn Anderson needs to be mentioned ahead of many who were already mentioned. He's close though at 498 goals.

That's true Glenn Anderson should be mentioned in this thread, very deserving. That said I would still take pretty much every player mentioned in this thread so far ahead of Anderson.

 

[kmad]

edit: nm. Didn't read OP.

 

[Hawkey Town 18]

I assume you mean forwards only

1. Bobby Clarke
2. Peter Stastny
3. Peter Forsberg
4. Sergei Fedorov
5. Doug Gilmour
6. Adam Oates
7. Eric Lindros
8. Denis Savard
9. Pavel Bure


HMs: Cam Neely, Jacques Lemaire, John Leclair, Pat Lafontaine

Good list, he barely qualifies, but I think Dave Keon should be included. I'd say around 5th.

Also, Bob Gainey and Theo Fleury probably fit into the HM's category

 

[Unaffiliated]

edit: didn't read OP my bad

 

[kmad]

Good list, he barely qualifies, but I think Dave Keon should be included. I'd say around 5th.

I was thinking Keon as well, but nearly half of his NHL career falls before expansion, including his Conn Smythe. Same reason we can't nominate Ullman. At least if we're going by the strict words of the OP.

 

[steve141]

In addition to the people already listed, I'll submit Jean Ratelle.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

In addition to the people already listed, I'll submit Jean Ratelle.

Ratelle is a good one. I basically forgot about him. Make him #10 on my list above.

 

[begbeee]

Unaffiliated & Mahovlich:
Names like Keon and especially Morenz open the flood gate of names like Malone, Conacher, Rocket Richard and that is not point I am interesting in it. This topic is about "modern" players.

 

[begbeee]

Rocket Richard sorry

 

[CaliforniaSeal]

Rick Middleton
Bernie Federko
Bernie Nicholls
Dennis Maruk
Bobby Smith
Steve Larmer
Denis Savard

 

[Unaffiliated]

Unaffiliated & Mahovlich:
Names like Keon and especially Morenz open the flood gate of names like Malone, Conacher, Rocket Richard and that is not point I am interesting in it. This topic is about "modern" players.

my bad didn't read

 

[MXD]

1. Bobby Clarke
2. Peter Stastny
3. Peter Forsberg
4. Sergei Fedorov
5. Cam Neely
6. Adam Oates
7. Doug Gilmour
8. Bob Gainey
9. Pat Lafontaine
10. Jean Ratelle

 

[Hawkey Town 18]

1. Bobby Clarke
2. Peter Stastny
3. Peter Forsberg
4. Sergei Fedorov
5. Cam Neely
6. Adam Oates
7. Doug Gilmour
8. Bob Gainey
9. Pat Lafontaine
10. Jean Ratelle

How can you have Neely 5th and Lindros not even on the list? Their short careers are very similar and Lindros easily has the better peak. I would think that would at least get him on there somewhere.

I also cannot see any reason for Pat Lafontaine over Denis Savard

 

[DoYouBeleaf]

Wendel Clark?

 

[crobro]

gilbert perrault
pavel bure
cam neely

 

[VMBM]

gilbert perrault
pavel bure
cam neely

Perreault has 512 goals.

 

[tony d]

Top 5:

1) Bobby Clarke
2) Peter Statsny
3) Peter Forsberg
4) Adam Oates
5) Denis Savard

 

[begbeee]

Dennis Maruk
Bernie Nicholls

Both Maruk and Nicholls were not bad players, basically PPG guys with one fluke season, but do you really see them in HM category with guys like Neely, LaFontaine or even LeClaire or Kariya???

 

[lazerbullet]

The best player is obviously Bobby Clarke. The best pure goalscorer is probably Pavel Bure.