Best NHL players to never receive a single vote for an award or all-star team

[TheDevilMadeMe]

Rod Seiling (started before expansion, but had no chance at Selke votes as a d-man anyways).


JP Parise, Petr Nedved or Robert Reichel are contenders, but there's probably better forwards out there.

Near misses: Slava Kozlov, Ken Linseman, Pit Martin

I agree that the answers would probably come from 70s, 80s, or early 90s, when the 5-3-1 votes were in effect.

Whatever source you are using has incomplete data.

Rod Seiling received a handful of Norris and All-Star votes at various times throughout his career.

JP Parise got a good amount of All-Star votes a few times, peaking at 3rd in All Star LW voting in 1973.

Nedved and Reichel look to be legitimate answers.

 

[kmad]

Found another one: Cesare Maniago

 

[kmad]

Nedved and Reichel look to be legitimate answers.

Maybe I'm a bit of a homer but is Cliff Ronning really a clear step below those guys?

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

Obvious one here, good call !
As for his partner...
One of Ken Daneyko, Lyle Odelein, Doug Bodger or Brad Stuart. Roughly ranked in descending order of desirability as a 1st D-Men.

I thought the answer to this question would have been Craig Ludwig, but be surprisingly received Norris support two years in a row during which his offensive output made Rod Langway look like Erik Karlsson by comparison.

EDIT : Amongst the D-Men who were very, very good at some things, but who are difficult to rank in situations such as these due to total lack of versatility, Hal Gill.

Craig Ludwig is one of the first guys I looked up too, and like you, I was surprised.

To add another name to this type of dman - Richard Matvichuk.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

Found another one: Cesare Maniago

You must also be using hockey-reference as your source....

Maniago received at least one vote in 1968, 1971, 1972, 1973, and 1974.

 

[nwaZ*]

Doug Weight and Tkakchuk are two guys with essentially nothing to show, except for the latter having two AS-2.

And both have +1000 pts.

Edit: Weight apparently got the Clancy his last year. Oh well...

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

Doug Weight and Tkakchuk are two guys with essentially nothing to show, except for the latter having two AS-2.

And both have +1000 pts.

Weight peaked at 3rd in All-Star voting in 2000-01 behind Sakic and Lemieux.

 

[kmad]

You must also be using hockey-reference as your source....

Maniago received at least one vote in 1968, 1971, 1972, 1973, and 1974.

You're right.

 

[nwaZ*]

Weight peaked at 3rd in All-Star voting in 2000-01 behind Sakic and Lemieux.

And sixth in Hart the same year. Yeah, he doesn't fit in here.

Alexandre Daigle got nothing! 16th in Byng is all. Damn, what a bust.

http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/d/daiglal02.html

 

[blogofmike]

Yeah, turns out hockeyreference doesn't have all the vote finishes.

 

[Epsilon]

The best source for votes is the thread on here.

 

[Crosbyfan]

You must also be using hockey-reference as your source....

Maniago received at least one vote in 1968, 1971, 1972, 1973, and 1974.

Also, NHL career started before expansion

 

[tjcurrie]

Add Greg Adams to the list

 

[seventieslord]

with a lot of these answers invalidated by now, it looks like the best answer so far is Andre Boudrias.

 

[The Panther]

How about Dr. Randy Gregg? Very unspectacular defenceman, but solid and smart. A top-4 D-man on five Stanley Cup teams in seven years (at least three times, he was better than +15 in the playoffs while scoring few points himself). Capable enough offensively (once had a 40-point season, scored 51 points in the playoffs) but took care of his own end first.

(Russ Courtnall almost makes it -- for his entire career, he was never top-15 in anything, but did twice get one or two votes for the Selke. That's pretty crappy results for a guy who had four 70+ point seasons and once led the Maple Leafs in scoring.)

 

[Ivo]

Mikael Renberg is another one. Him and Jozef Stumpel are the only players since early 70s who finished top-10 in league scoring and never got a single vote for anything in their career.

 

[nwaZ*]

Patrice Brisebois never received any votes for anything:

http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/b/brisepa01.html

(hate these questions, they make me obsessed with finding the best answer )

 

[Hardyvan123]

I was guessing Ulf Nilsson as his NHL seasons were short with injuries but he got an 8th place AS at center in his 59 games in 79, just an indication of how good he was.

 

[Hardyvan123]

with a lot of these answers invalidated by now, it looks like the best answer so far is Andre Boudrias.

He probably is but to be fair had there been a Selke trophy back in his day he would have received votes.

 

[Hardyvan123]

How about Dr. Randy Gregg? Very unspectacular defenceman, but solid and smart. A top-4 D-man on five Stanley Cup teams in seven years (at least three times, he was better than +15 in the playoffs while scoring few points himself). Capable enough offensively (once had a 40-point season, scored 51 points in the playoffs) but took care of his own end first.

(Russ Courtnall almost makes it -- for his entire career, he was never top-15 in anything, but did twice get one or two votes for the Selke. That's pretty crappy results for a guy who had four 70+ point seasons and once led the Maple Leafs in scoring.)

The Selke and Byng voting in recent years is really messing this thread up...lol

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

Mikael Renberg is another one. Him and Jozef Stumpel are the only players since early 70s who finished top-10 in league scoring and never got a single vote for anything in their career.

how did renberg not get any AST votes at RW in '95? that's criminal.

 

[nwaZ*]

Luke Richardson went 1400 games and 22 years without receiving a single vote for anything.

Mind blown. It has to be the quitest career ever. Not that he was great but... 22 years and more than 1400 games.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

how did renberg not get any AST votes at RW in '95? that's criminal.

1994-95 had a very limited number of voters due to the lockout rules, so there were fewer homer votes to go around. This was the voting for RW.

RIGHT WING: Jaromir Jagr 71 (14-0-1); Theoren Fleury 35 (0-11-2); Brett Hull 15 (0-3-6); Peter Bondra 12 (1-1-4); Owen Nolan 1 (0-0-1); Ray Sheppard 1 (0-0-1)

3 name ballots, with 4 RWs clearly ahead of the rest. Then a single homer vote to both Nolan and Sheppard. Guess the Flyers didn't have a guy throwing out a homer vote like the Sharks and Red Wings did.

 

[MS]

One thing is sure, however : the best goalscorer who never received a single vote for major awards/all star teams is Garry Unger.

Unger should be the runaway winner of this going of hockey-reference ... has anyone confirmed he didn't receive any votes at any point?

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

Unger should be the runaway winner of this going of hockey-reference ... has anyone confirmed he didn't receive any votes at any point?

Why would anyone go off hockey reference?

Unger was 5th in AS C voting in 1970, 5th in 1972, and 8th in 1976.

He also received a single Hart vote in 1973, though strangely no All-Star votes that year.