Best Hart trophy race in recent memory?

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

Boy, I misread this title as Bret Hart Trophy Race and was very confused. I thought the Hitman gave players a trophy or something.

 

[phrenssoa]

Scott Cullen from TSN said it best:

https://www.tsn.ca/statistically-speaking-nhl-award-picks-1.1054327

“When McDavid is on the ice, the Oilers were very good; outshooting, out-chancing and outscoring (81 GF, 60 GA at 5-on-5) the opposition. Without him they were an unmitigated disaster, but how can a player possibly be held accountable for what his team does when he’s off the ice?

Manny from Corsica Hockey is working on a WAR model and I have my own WAR model, and while our models aren’t the same, there is something common to them – McDavid is head and shoulders above the rest of the league. He was the best player and, as an individual, provided the most value to his team. It’s not his fault that the rest of the team was lost without him.”

 

[No Fun Shogun]

In a majorly competitive race like this one, I have to go by the strictest definition of "MVP." McDavid was the best player in the league, and what Cullen said may be right in the fact that Oilers were an absolute mess when he wasn't on the ice, but by and large his phenomenal play really didn't change much for the Oilers other than their lottery odds. From that perspective, I don't see how you could say he was the most valuable player league-wide relative to what they did to their team.

Has to be Hall or MacKinnon in my mind, and if I had a vote I'd go Hall.

 

[Mr Hockey]

imo, the best player goes to Mcdavid, he is a notch above everyone else ... I would give the "team/league" mvp to MacKinnon.

 

[Fantomas]

Scott Cullen from TSN said it best:

https://www.tsn.ca/statistically-speaking-nhl-award-picks-1.1054327

“When McDavid is on the ice, the Oilers were very good; outshooting, out-chancing and outscoring (81 GF, 60 GA at 5-on-5) the opposition. Without him they were an unmitigated disaster, but how can a player possibly be held accountable for what his team does when he’s off the ice?

Manny from Corsica Hockey is working on a WAR model and I have my own WAR model, and while our models aren’t the same, there is something common to them – McDavid is head and shoulders above the rest of the league. He was the best player and, as an individual, provided the most value to his team. It’s not his fault that the rest of the team was lost without him.”

This.

 

[Future GOAT]

Scott Cullen from TSN said it best:

https://www.tsn.ca/statistically-speaking-nhl-award-picks-1.1054327

“When McDavid is on the ice, the Oilers were very good; outshooting, out-chancing and outscoring (81 GF, 60 GA at 5-on-5) the opposition. Without him they were an unmitigated disaster, but how can a player possibly be held accountable for what his team does when he’s off the ice?

Manny from Corsica Hockey is working on a WAR model and I have my own WAR model, and while our models aren’t the same, there is something common to them – McDavid is head and shoulders above the rest of the league. He was the best player and, as an individual, provided the most value to his team. It’s not his fault that the rest of the team was lost without him.”

Cullen has it right.

 

[madlee]

This is a joke right? If the oilers without McDavid were such a disaster, several things would be obvious in his stats:

His plus minus would be off the charts.
His point total would be way above anyone else's.

To argue that his contribution to his team is greater than Hall's, Kopitar's, Giroux's or MacKinnon's, when his point total is in the same neighborhood as those players, is baffling.

Since the Oilers roster is pretty much the same as it was last year, it can be by this same logic above, counter argued that McDavid actually makes his team worse.

 

[FlyingPhi]

This is a joke right? If the oilers without McDavid were such a disaster, several things would be obvious in his stats:

His plus minus would be off the charts.
His point total would be way above anyone else's.

To argue that his contribution to his team is greater than Hall's, Kopitar's, Giroux's or MacKinnon's, when his point total is in the same neighborhood as those players, is baffling.

Since the Oilers roster is pretty much the same as it was last year, it can be by this same logic above, counter argued that McDavid actually makes his team worse.

daver got a new ID, fellas.

I am not a big hyperbole person, but this has to be one of the most outlandish things I have read here.

 

[McKappa]

If we voted by the actual definition of the award, it's McDavid.

If we vote how the voters typically vote, it's gotta be Hall.

Either way, an Edmonton Oilers takes hom.... wait...