Yea it sure is terrible to have players go to the net. Pretty sure it was a terrible shot that was was going way wide anyway.
Injury Report: Bertuzzi to IR (out six weeks), Czarnik recalled
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So which was it? Was Bert in front of the net or hanging out in the corner? This is serious business.
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30 goal scorers are useless for a team that struggles scoring goals?
His play this season is very clearly due to the injuries and the recovery.
If he does end up leaving Detroit I can guarantee you the same tired mouths on here that want him gone will be whining about how the Wings don't have enough grit, sandpaper and secondary scoring.
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What grit, sandpaper, and secondary scoring is Bertuzzi providing this season?
30 goal scorers that don't play are pretty useless.
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He can't score 30 without DBoss, you gotta ask which one is more important, Bert can be replaced by Kubalik or Vrana, DBoss can't be replaced since he's the best UFA center this offseason.
He really hasn't provided much grit or sandpaper since his back injury anyways. Also the team isn't nearly as soft as it was a couple of years ago, there's only a couple of smaller players that can't fend for himself.
... and yet he has 2 Cup rings.
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Good for Helm.
I loved Darren Helm until Babcock decided he was a top 6er and Ken Holland paid him like a top 6er.
Most of the data I've seen indicates Bert helps Larkin more than vice-versa, at least until this year.
What matters is how much he costs.
If he wants 7x7.5, can you blame Yzerman for letting him walk?
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Injuries happen. Those weren't "fragile player" injuries and you know it. You're blaming him for being hurt by fluke shots?
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At some point it doesn't really matter if it is fluke or not.
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And showed up to training camp hurt and will be missing ~3mo with two other injuries. After playing 9 games the season before last.
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I'm assuming that was the training camp "flare up" that they never specified what it was.
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Bertuzzi for Brock Boesner?
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Canucks: Brock Boeser’s agent given permission to seek a trade
Boeser's agent Ben Hankinson has been given permission to speak directly to teams about finding a possible trading partner: reports.
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Not worth signing long term if he is unable to remain in the lineup..
He is not a franchise player that you overlook the injury risk
It's time to move on
He is not a franchise player that you overlook the injury risk
It's time to move on
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I dont think so
He will still command 5 to 6m a season. I wouldn't commit that kind of money, let alone whatever term is agreed upon, in him anymore.
I think the money could be better invested elsewhere that helps us longer term
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“Both were bad luck,” Lalonde said. “This one was on the offensive side, just being in the hard areas around the net. This other one, he blocked a shot on the defensive side of things.”
Bad luck does not equate to fragile/injury prone. Helm was injury prone for years (so e stopped hitting). Fabbri has bad knees. Tyler was hit by 2 pucks while in the right places at the wrong times.
I only suggested the trade to troll you folks... j/k. I saw the Boeser article and relayed the persistent discussions around Bertuzzi being traded or leaving this off season. I don't get how some feel him taking the Wings to arbitration was a negative. He won and gained a 1 year deal worth $3.5M. He then signed a 2-year deal for $9.5M. Now this 2nd contract is the one that is likely more concerning (from a retention perspective). He didn't give up his opportunity to hit the market at 27. These facts have people leaning toward him becoming a UFA. I can't disagree. In this regard, I always side with the player. So few get this opportunity, and careers can be cut down in a moment, so why not go for the money? If the Wings want him, they have him locked into exclusive negotiations. Further they have had him locked into the team since he was 18 (think about this while at work). It isn't Tyler saying he wants to go, it is Tyler determining his value. He did it once, and won. Why not do it again? Evidence of the past builds faith in the future.
Bad luck does not equate to fragile/injury prone. Helm was injury prone for years (so e stopped hitting). Fabbri has bad knees. Tyler was hit by 2 pucks while in the right places at the wrong times.
I only suggested the trade to troll you folks... j/k. I saw the Boeser article and relayed the persistent discussions around Bertuzzi being traded or leaving this off season. I don't get how some feel him taking the Wings to arbitration was a negative. He won and gained a 1 year deal worth $3.5M. He then signed a 2-year deal for $9.5M. Now this 2nd contract is the one that is likely more concerning (from a retention perspective). He didn't give up his opportunity to hit the market at 27. These facts have people leaning toward him becoming a UFA. I can't disagree. In this regard, I always side with the player. So few get this opportunity, and careers can be cut down in a moment, so why not go for the money? If the Wings want him, they have him locked into exclusive negotiations. Further they have had him locked into the team since he was 18 (think about this while at work). It isn't Tyler saying he wants to go, it is Tyler determining his value. He did it once, and won. Why not do it again? Evidence of the past builds faith in the future.
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Assuming Suter, Ned, and Erne gone the team has quite a bit of cap space if the cap goes up next season. Abby's buyout gets cut in half, Nielsen's expires, and Panik's retention is also gone.
$5 or 6 for a season would easily fit under the cap and still allow Stevie to looks for another body. The bigger problem is that there aren't many quality centers available.
I think it makes sense for both sides to do a one year contract, so Bert can increase his market value and trade value. After that, I'm not so sure since Seider and Raymond's ELCs expire.
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