Post-Game Talk: Bergevin gets reprieve, Habs over Peg 4-2!

[Leon Lucius Black]

If only the Oilers had beaten the Flames.....
Flames lookin dangerous all of a sudden and im not likin it.

Mike Smith has somehow put up a .922 save % after putting up a .900 save % the last two years. I can see the Oilers dropping once he falls back to earth, Calgary has looked good so I can see them continue to put up points.

Habs play the the Oilers 3 times in a row next week and then Edmonton also have Calgary/Toronto/Winnipeg twice each in their next 9 games, with the Habs 3 points back of them with 3 games in hand hopefully they can move past Edmonton and create some separation.

 

[abo9]

I know most of you despise him. I never got the hate but whatever. Pacioretty is having a good season. 24th scorer in the league. I'm happy he is having success in Vegas. Always liked him, liked him more before he was captain (39-37 goals) he still did okay first two years then shit the bed.

Which was super weird (that people hated him), as people also complained about not having a goalscorer and he was just under our nose.
He's currently 29th in goals amongst all players post-lockout, 7th since 2011 which is when he "really" took off.

I guess since he was a big body, people disliked the fact that he became more of a perimeter player after his injury. Still he scored goals at an elite pace.

 

[Prendan Brust]

I agree, the reaction after two consecutive losses was completely ridiculous.

Only matched by the reaction after two wins! ;-)

 

[nhlfan9191]

There's little motivation for us to finish 1st or 2nd if Montreal continues to be much stronger away than at home. Let the Leafs burnout their stars in a useless quest to finish 1st.

If we make the playoffs, I kind of want a crack at the Leafs so we can have a chance to crush their dreams.

 

[jaffy27]

I think the people who want Bergevin fired have been pretty vocal for awhile. There was no hibernation to be awoken from.

They been pretty quiet after the amazing off season they had, and after that hot start is was crickets and tumbleweed.

Of course you had the delusional diehards....but overall it was pretty quiet right up until about a week ago and of course they were in full flight approaching Mach 2.0 with their performances in Calgary.

 

[Andy]

They been pretty quiet after the amazing off season they had, and after that hot start is was crickets and tumbleweed..

GMs should be judged by results, not by the transactions in a 4 week window or the wins in a 2 week window.

They need to be judged by the whole.

 

[PaulD]

Only matched by the reaction after two wins! ;-)

 

[PaulD]

If we make the playoffs, I kind of want a crack at the Leafs so we can have a chance to crush their dreams.

For sure. If Price was red hot for it.......it could be done.

But The Habs have to get in.

My picks remain the same for the four play off teams in the Shinny division.
Leafs , Oilers, Jets , Flames.

 

[Lshap]

For sure. If Price was red hot for it.......it could be done.

But The Habs have to get in.

My picks remain the same for the four play off teams in the Shinny division.
Leafs , Oilers, Jets , Flames.

I'll predict Oilers drop out of the playoffs. Like the Leafs, they're overly dependent on their top line, which should gradually catch up to those players over a compressed season. There are only four forwards in the NHL averaging over 22 minutes TOI: Marner, McDavid, Draisaitl, and Matthews. It doesn't stop there for Edmonton: Nugent-Hopkins has the 9th most TOI among forwards and Nurse has the 4th most TOI for all players. That kind of imbalance is unsustainable.

Among goalies, Andersen and Hellebuyck are #3 and 4 in TOI (Grubauer and Gibson are 1 and 2). Playoffs haven't been kind to teams that overuse their goalies; we'll see how it pans out with a season that's shorter but compressed.

 

[TesseractPrice]

For sure. If Price was red hot for it.......it could be done.

But The Habs have to get in.

My picks remain the same for the four play off teams in the Shinny division.
Leafs , Oilers, Jets , Flames.

I don't know how sustainable the Flames system is over 10+ games. They have 12 games in the next 20 days. They might get gassed in the last 4-5 of that stretch

 

[David Suzuki]

I agree, the reaction after two consecutive losses was completely ridiculous.

I think Saturday was 3 wins in their last 12 games.

 

[Miller Time]

I'll predict Oilers drop out of the playoffs. Like the Leafs, they're overly dependent on their top line, which should gradually catch up to those players over a compressed season. There are only four forwards in the NHL averaging over 22 minutes TOI: Marner, McDavid, Draisaitl, and Matthews. It doesn't stop there for Edmonton: Nugent-Hopkins has the 9th most TOI among forwards and Nurse has the 4th most TOI for all players. That kind of imbalance is unsustainable.

Among goalies, Andersen and Hellebuyck are #3 and 4 in TOI (Grubauer and Gibson are 1 and 2). Playoffs haven't been kind to teams that overuse their goalies; we'll see how it pans out with a season that's shorter but compressed.

This will be interesting to revisit after the season...

Unprecedented situation and at the surface, your take seems reasonable, but I also think the brevity of the season itself combined with the reality that both groups of players got more rest/downtime in the past 12 months than ever in their late-teen/adult life, might prove otherwise...

The bigger risk imo may be injury from the volume of use, but as far as having enough in the tank to maintain a high level for 2-3 more months? I wouldn't bet against it.

 

[Habs]

This team is way too soft up front for a playoff grind. They need to find a way to get rid of Leks, Byron, Tatar and take some size back. Team is getting crushed on the wall still and on the down low cycle.

 

[BLONG7]

This team is way too soft up front for a playoff grind. They need to find a way to get rid of Leks, Byron, Tatar and take some size back. Team is getting crushed on the wall still and on the down low cycle.

Drouin makes up for those softies...lol

 

[Habs]

Drouin makes up for those softies...lol

I think Drouin would have to be part of the package for sure.

 

[BLONG7]

I think Drouin would have to be part of the package for sure.

We do have too many guys who play soft....it is changing, but there are still passengers. Gotta give JD credit, where it's due though, he is a playmaker, and has had a decent start to the season, but he has more to give.

 

[Wats]

Leafs deciding to hand out points to all the teams now is making it hard to lock into 4th.

 

[Tyson]

Might not be scoring but definitely the best passer on the team.

Drouin is becoming a good 50 point player. His compete level has never been higher

 

[Habs]

We do have too many guys who play soft....it is changing, but there are still passengers. Gotta give JD credit, where it's due though, he is a playmaker, and has had a decent start to the season, but he has more to give.

I think we should get Mantha and Virtanen and need one more piece on the blueline. I wonder if this is possible this season?

 

[BLONG7]

I think we should get Mantha and Virtanen and need one more piece on the blueline. I wonder if this is possible this season?

Covid trades just seem unlikely....the NHL is trying to get our government to waive the two weeks quarantine.

 

[Gravity]

Had McDonalds a few times in my travels to India. Most of their burgers are either all vegan or chicken. No eating cow thete.

I love the McVeggie there! Actually prefer the taste of McDonalds there vs. here lol.

 

[nhlfan9191]

They been pretty quiet after the amazing off season they had, and after that hot start is was crickets and tumbleweed.

Of course you had the delusional diehards....but overall it was pretty quiet right up until about a week ago and of course they were in full flight approaching Mach 2.0 with their performances in Calgary.

Honestly, I think the only reason you weren’t hearing about it as much is because the fans and media were busy crucifying Price. Now that Price is playing well, people can’t blame him for all the teams problems when they don’t deliver results.

 

[JianYang]

I know the PK let in a couple goals, but I see some systematic improvements.

The habs are a bit more aggressive on the kill, and I think that's going to work out well in the long run.

That's also the main improvement I'm seeing on the PP. It's not that they are doing much different on it when they set up, but the big difference to me is that they are developing a wolf pack mentality in grabbing those loose pucks so they can at least increase their zone time. There is alot more determination and intensity being exerted to keep pucks in, and to pressure the PK when they have clearing opportunities.

Some of the best PP opportunities come from failed clearing attempts, and we are finally starting to see it happen for the habs.

 

[ChikN]

Kudos to Alex Burrows for waking up the PP too. Deserves some credit.

 

[angusyoung]

If we make the playoffs, I kind of want a crack at the Leafs so we can have a chance to crush their dreams.

Their dreams will be crushed regardless, all the better and sweeter if Habs do it.