Ben Bishop is a transcendent talent

[Parker]

Feel bad for Ottawa that the only return they got for trading Bishop was 25 points in 72 games from Cory Conacher and a 4th round pick.

With all that young talent on Tampa Bay did Ottawa just roll the dice and pick the wrong guy to trade for or did Yzerman fleece them?

 

[Love]

Because Bishop chose hockey instead of basketball. With his athleticism he could easily be a power forward or Tight End

Umm.... How do I say this:

Ben Bishop is very average in size by NBA standards. You think any large man can just step on a basketball court and be a professional?

If you're in the NBA at 6'7'' you are either:

- Extremely talented in an athletic sense as well as having very good basketball fundamental skills (shooting, dribbling, passing)

- A "specialist", like Kyle Korver, for example. Who is one of the best pure jump shooters on the planet.

 

[HanSolo]

A touch overreactiony.

 

[Syckle78]

Feel bad for Ottawa that the only return they got for trading Bishop was 25 points in 72 games from Cory Conacher and a 4th round pick.

With all that young talent on Tampa Bay did Ottawa just roll the dice and pick the wrong guy to trade for or did Yzerman fleece them?

Tampa didn't have a ton of young talent at the time. Conacher was having a very productive season and the geniuses of hfboards skewered Yzerman when the trade went down. There was about a year there after the bolts made the conference finals when the hf group think started the Yzerman is over rated to terrible as a gm meme.

 

[Volodya Krutov]

Thanks for the jinx thread...smh

 

[Hoek]

Lehner definitely looks like a bust by comparison at least, but I can't blame Ottawa too much. Just a real tough call and a logjam that needed to be resolved one way or another.

And yeah total jinx thread. Pretty much guaranteed the Rangers win one 6-2 now, just like Montreal responded to our 6-2 last series.

 

[CupsOverCash]

I actually think his rebound control has been very good. Lundqvist was a rebound machine this last game.

 

[CanadienShark]

Except he's not very good...

League average.

 

[CanadienShark]

Has there been a better puck handler than Bishop since Brodeur? Bit overconfident I'd say, but his skills and instincts are quite impressive.

A guy that belongs to your team... Carey Price.

The best three in the league are:

Price
Bishop
Smith

I hate the latter two. In fact, they are my #2/3 least favourite players in the league. Can't deny their puck handling abilities though.

 

[TheSchmidt]

Dude sucks. He's just big. No talent at all.

That's why TB fared well in the playoffs last year with another huge goalie.

 

[The Macho King]

A guy that belongs to your team... Carey Price.

The best three in the league are:

Price
Bishop
Smith

I hate the latter two. In fact, they are my #2/3 least favourite players in the league. Can't deny their puck handling abilities though.

I think Bishop showed in Game 6 he's got a different gear than Price. Price is good with the puck, but part of being the "best puck handling goalie" is actually playing the puck. WHEN Price handles it he's good, but Bishop is so aggressive with it he's basically a sixth skater out there. Smith and Bishop are the top two and in a class by themselves.

 

[CanadienShark]

I think Bishop showed in Game 6 he's got a different gear than Price. Price is good with the puck, but part of being the "best puck handling goalie" is actually playing the puck. WHEN Price handles it he's good, but Bishop is so aggressive with it he's basically a sixth skater out there. Smith and Bishop are the top two and in a class by themselves.

I don't think you've seen much of Price at all, quite honestly. He's really, really good. One game does not represent a goalie's ability, especially when one team is just plain better (the winning team).

 

[Devilsfan992]

A guy that belongs to your team... Carey Price.

The best three in the league are:

Price
Bishop
Smith

I hate the latter two. In fact, they are my #2/3 least favourite players in the league. Can't deny their puck handling abilities though.

I'm going to go on a limb and say Kreider is your #1. Either that or Lucic.

 

[CanadienShark]

I'm going to go on a limb and say Kreider is your #1. Either that or Lucic.

Actually, no.

You did name my #4 and #5 though.

Initials are DB... AINEC.

 

[CanadienShark]

And FWIW, I'm probably more Sharks fan than Habs fan, despite what some people think. Loyalty is the main factor. Been a Sharks fan since I knew what hockey was. Haven't been a Habs fan quite that long...

 

[tntkid]

Ottawa & St Louis gave up on him too soon.

Smart pick up by Tampa.

 

[The Macho King]

I don't think you've seen much of Price at all, quite honestly. He's really, really good. One game does not represent a goalie's ability, especially when one team is just plain better (the winning team).

I've seen a good bit of Habs games, actually. I think to be a "top puck handling goalie" you have to actively seek to use that skill, and use it a lot. Bishop and Smith both use it a lot (to the point where it's somewhat frightening at times). Price doesn't have that same... adventurous quality to him.

 

[CanadienShark]

I've seen a good bit of Habs games, actually. I think to be a "top puck handling goalie" you have to actively seek to use that skill, and use it a lot. Bishop and Smith both use it a lot (to the point where it's somewhat frightening at times). Price doesn't have that same... adventurous quality to him.

The thing is... he does. Price is like a 6th d-man.

 

[2020 Cup Champions]

I can't believe how many people completely wooshed on the OP's intent

 

[Faax]

In the modern NHL, size >>> skill when it comes to goaltending, the position has become a joke for the most part

 

[These Are The Days]

Take it from a Lightning fan. He's a good goalie but I'd much rather have Price or Lundqvist. Off the top of my head I can recall 3 goals that never should've happened (Glendening SHG in Game 1 vs Wings the goal where he smacked it into his own net in Game 3 and the Pacioretty goal in Game 1) along with his constant misadventures playing with the puck. There's been points where he has been unstoppable and made some unbelievable stops but the softies are too numerous to count.

 

[PWB]

10 years from now we will labeling BB as a pioneer for all monster sized goalies.

Wait until NBA players choose to play hockey...

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

 

[Todd1a]

cory conacher and a 4th rounder for bishop what a steal by yzerman!

 

[Jacko95]

Tampa didn't have a ton of young talent at the time. Conacher was having a very productive season and the geniuses of hfboards skewered Yzerman when the trade went down. There was about a year there after the bolts made the conference finals when the hf group think started the Yzerman is over rated to terrible as a gm meme.

There wasn't? Johnson was in the late stages of his AHL MVP season, Kucherov was already in NA and dominating the Q, Panik was highly regarded back then.. Alex Killorn (still one of the best kept secrets back in his prospect days IMO) was already having a monster pro rookie season. Palat was already NHL ready, though everybody thought he would become a thrid liner.
Obviously it wasn't what it turned out to be back then, but still there was plenty to choose from in terms of forward.

Yzerman was wise to trade the hot guy everybody was talking about, who hadn't produced for a stretch of games already. He later said that he was willing to trade Conacher because of Johnson. His scouts and himself saw more upside in Johnson.

 

[Volodya Krutov]

Take it from a Lightning fan. He's a good goalie but I'd much rather have Price or Lundqvist. Off the top of my head I can recall 3 goals that never should've happened (Glendening SHG in Game 1 vs Wings the goal where he smacked it into his own net in Game 3 and the Pacioretty goal in Game 1) along with his constant misadventures playing with the puck. There's been points where he has been unstoppable and made some unbelievable stops but the softies are too numerous to count.

I can understand people not watching saying silly things but I'm shaking my head there. We don't even pass the first round without Bishop, yes he allowed 3 soft goals overall but he also stopped the four hundred other shots. Bishop and Johnson have been the backbone of our run by a colossal margin, he's been clutch, consistent and displayed a lot of assurance. Bishop outplayed Price over the 6 games series, he's been the better goalie after 2 games so far against NY. The only person that seems capable to beat Bishop is Bishop himself, just shows how dominant he's been the 3 softies aside.

There's not a single goalie Tampa wants beside Bishop at the moment, he's ours.