donghabs98
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A behind the scenes look at how the Habs approached draft weekend and how it unfolded.
I assume he had the draft pick value chart with him which definitely helped in gauging the value.That trade call from Edm and subsequent decision by Bergevin came quick. They obviously prep for these scenarios, but it was kind of interesting how quickly things moved.
Man, Timmins looked real pissed when he was told they were trading that pick. Looks like it worked out ok.
They talk about Kotkaniemi and the guy right after him and say "this guy has power he can carry 2 guys to the net". Timmins then says we have these 2 guys side by side, so you've gotta think that they're talking about Kotkaniemi and Tkachuk. They also talked about Zadina (implied) and say how all his fitness scores are in the red (then Audette comes back and says but his play on the ice doesn't reflect that etc.). Interesting convo.
It's also interesting to see how badly Timmins wanted Hillis at #59, we still got him at 66 and ended up adding Harris and Houde (we could have also picked these guys over other prospects if we didn't have these extra picks, say Harris over McShane @ #97).
It was an overpayment, MB would have been dumb not to do it- plus we got the guy we wanted anyway...That’s strange though. Shouldn’t the conversation be “hey Trevor, do you want an extra 4th or 5th rounder”?
Exactly.That’s strange though. Shouldn’t the conversation be “hey Trevor, do you want an extra 4th or 5th rounder”?
It was dumb luck that we did. If you look at Timmins' expression, he didn't think Hillis would be on the board with their next pick.It was an overpayment, MB would have been dumb not to do it- plus we got the guy we wanted anyway...
It was dumb luck that we did. If you look at Timmins' expression, he didn't think Hillis would be on the board with their next pick.
It was dumb luck that we did. If you look at Timmins' expression, he didn't think Hillis would be on the board with their next pick.
Yeah it was dumb luck. Like everything else this jackass of a GM does there was no plan of attack. That small clip of MB at work really showed me this man is way over his head.Dumb luck? Have you ever heard of gambling? Lol
He traded back, got an additional pick and still ended up with the player they wanted...Yeah it was dumb luck. Like everything else this jackass of a GM does there was no plan of attack. That small clip of MB at work really showed me this man is way over his head.
Did you guys see the fist pump between Churla and Timmins after drafting Hillis ? (at 10:04) haha
And if he didn't get the player his scouts wanted?He traded back, got an additional pick and still ended up with the player they wanted...
Any other team would be praised for this...
Sign of the times I guess
But he did...that's called a calculated risk.And if he didn't get the player his scouts wanted?
Pretty standard procedure.What was his reasoning? To get an extra pick. He didn't bother asking his head scout what he thought, seeing as he was the one with the best grasp on the value of the picks.
I'm trying to understand the issue you're having, not being sarcastic here, being serious.You gamble on losing a player your scouts are really high on so you can get an extra 5th round pick. That's MB to a T. There's no sound reasoning to the way he works. We got too many picks here. Let's trade of of them. He actually said that on the video.
The issue is that I don't think it was a calculated risk. You do. I think it was a reckless arrogant risk which describes his tenure as GM. He got lucky this time. Seeing what he has done to the Habs over the last 6 years, my intuition tells me he rarely gets lucky.But he did...that's called a calculated risk.
Pretty standard procedure.
I'm trying to understand the issue you're having, not being sarcastic here, being serious.
You're holding it against the GM that he acquired an additional pick, while still being able to draft the player they wanted?
You realize that we're talking about a 3rd round pick here?The issue is that I don't think it was a calculated risk. You do. I think it was a reckless arrogant risk which describes his tenure as GM. He got lucky this time. Seeing what he has done to the Habs over the last 6 years, my intuition tells me he rarely gets lucky.
If you're criticizing the guy for making a great trade and still getting the guy he wanted, you aren't looking at things through a clear lens.It was dumb luck that we did. If you look at Timmins' expression, he didn't think Hillis would be on the board with their next pick.