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Rigafan

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Finnish 2nd league Mestis has expressed interest to include teams from Riga and Tallinn to join it.

My suggestion for divisions would be like this:

North division: 7 teams from Finland

South division: Tallinn, Riga and 5 teams from Finland

Regular season within the divisions, four best of each divisions to playoffs. Last ranked Finnish teams of both divisions to qualification with Finnish 3rd tier teams.

Is the Liiga a closed league now so Mestis won't be promoted?
 

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Is the Liiga a closed league now so Mestis won't be promoted?

Yes, sadly it is. Many fans would want the qualification games between Liiga and Mestis back. Maybe it will happen in the future when it's the right time to promote Jokerit and Kiekko-Espoo back to Liiga. Number of teams can't be raised too much so qualification should come back then.
 
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Finnish 2nd league Mestis has expressed interest to include teams from Riga and Tallinn to join it.

My suggestion for divisions would be like this:

North division: 7 teams from Finland

South division: Tallinn, Riga and 5 teams from Finland

Regular season within the divisions, four best of each divisions to playoffs. Last ranked Finnish teams of both divisions to qualification with Finnish 3rd tier teams.
I'm not buying it really just because I don't see Estonia putting together a legit Mestis team.
 

Pardus

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I'm not buying it really just because I don't see Estonia putting together a legit Mestis team.

Robert Rooba - Erik Embrich - Kristjan Kombe
Mark Viitanen - Robert Arrak - Morten Jürgens
Marek Potšinok - Erik Potšinok - Nikita Puzakov
Vadim Vasjonkin - Rasmus Kiik - Andre Linde
Deniss Kontseus, Klaus Jõgi

Eduard Slessarevski - Daniil Kulintsev
Konrad Kudeviita - Patrick Kookmaa
Hendrik-Paul Laosma - Artjom Anufrijev

Conrad Mölder
Georg Vladimirov

Would be legit enough.
 
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Robert Rooba - Erik Embrich - Kristjan Kombe
Mark Viitanen - Robert Arrak - Morten Jürgens
Marek Potšinok - Erik Potšinok - Nikita Puzakov
Vadim Vasjonkin - Rasmus Kiik - Andre Linde
Deniss Kontseus, Klaus Jõgi

Eduard Slessarevski - Daniil Kulintsev
Konrad Kudeviita - Patrick Kookmaa
Hendrik-Paul Laosma - Artjom Anufrijev

Conrad Mölder
Georg Vladimirov

Would be legit enough.

I meant legit as like one that is actually realistic - Rooba dropping to Mestis is simply not happening. If there was an Estonian NHLer out there, you would also slot him in to your Mestis roster? Anyway, just look at that D, how is those Sarja players suddenly reasonable Mestis players?
 

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Finnish 2nd league Mestis has expressed interest to include teams from Riga and Tallinn to join it.

My suggestion for divisions would be like this:

North division: 7 teams from Finland

South division: Tallinn, Riga and 5 teams from Finland

Regular season within the divisions, four best of each divisions to playoffs. Last ranked Finnish teams of both divisions to qualification with Finnish 3rd tier teams.
Im just curious. Where did you get the info about Mestis being interested in that?
 

tornaado66

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I meant legit as like one that is actually realistic - Rooba dropping to Mestis is simply not happening. If there was an Estonian NHLer out there, you would also slot him in to your Mestis roster? Anyway, just look at that D, how is those Sarja players suddenly reasonable Mestis players?
If there were to be a team from Tallinn in Mestis, then very likely there would be some foreigners playing for Tallinn. I think even a couple of Mestis caliber finnish defensmen would be enough for that roster be very competitive.
Robert Rooba - Erik Embrich - Kristjan Kombe
Mark Viitanen - Robert Arrak - Morten Jürgens
Marek Potšinok - Erik Potšinok - Nikita Puzakov
Vadim Vasjonkin - Rasmus Kiik - Andre Linde
Deniss Kontseus, Klaus Jõgi

Eduard Slessarevski - Daniil Kulintsev
Konrad Kudeviita - Patrick Kookmaa
Hendrik-Paul Laosma - Artjom Anufrijev

Conrad Mölder
Georg Vladimirov

Would be legit enough.
Rooba and Kombe are unrealistic indeed, but others would definitely be willing to play. I would add some candidates from players in swedish leagues: Usov, Svartbro, Aleksandrov, Ossipov (D).

All in all I think that putting together a good team for Mestis is doable. Only problem would be money. It just doesn´t seem like we have sponsors who are willing to bet on hockey. Football and basketball are still getting the most of the attention.
 
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Im just curious. Where did you get the info about Mestis being interested in that?


Edit. Ah, @Exarz had already posted that.
 

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Are there any plans for developing the BHL next season? HK Kurbads played in Estonian league this season so maybe finally a real united league?

07-08 there were one team from Estonia and Lithuania in Latvian league.
 

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Are there any plans for developing the BHL next season? HK Kurbads played in Estonian league this season so maybe finally a real united league?

07-08 there were one team from Estonia and Lithuania in Latvian league.
I havent heard any rumors about BHL for next season. I hope that atleast the previous format will stay for the next season. Hopefully as years go by this format would eventually lead to a full united league, but it is not happening anytime soon as Estonian teams dont have funds to travel this much. Also we may excpect that multiple estonian teams will lose Russian players. Viru Sputnik will likely miss the next season.

I heard some rumors about Kurbads, that had they won the Estonian Championship they would be playing in the Latvian league next season. But I hope Kurbads stays for a few more years, because they made the league so much better and interesting. I think it shows that with Latvians it is possible to improve Estonian nad Lithuanian domestic hockey.
EDIT: HC Panter's head coach was asked what was the most memorable game of the season and he simply anserwed: "All the games against Kurbads and maybe the bronze medal game".

The Estonian team in the Latvian league had to fold because of the economic crisis, but was quite succesful as they iced mostly estonian players and were competitive. It was also the first fully proffessional ice hockey team in Estonia.
 
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Are there any plans for developing the BHL next season? HK Kurbads played in Estonian league this season so maybe finally a real united league?

07-08 there were one team from Estonia and Lithuania in Latvian league.
Energija played in the Latvian championship for almost 10 years so we know full well it's not feasible. Now more than ever when the Latvian league is truly having some decent teams.
 

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Energija played in the Latvian championship for almost 10 years so we know full well it's not feasible. Now more than ever when the Latvian league is truly having some decent teams.

How about one professional team from Lithuania and one from Estonia in Latvian league?

was quite succesful as they iced mostly estonian players and were competitive. It was also the first fully proffessional ice hockey team in Estonia.

Yes, I remember. I was living in Tartu at the time. It was really sad that it lasted only one season.

I also watched from TV channel Kalev Sport when Rooba played his first games in Estonian league with Purikad as he was just 14 years old.
 
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How about one professional team from Lithuania and one from Estonia in Latvian league?
Well, it's the usual. There is no money, no real interest, neither of those teams would be truly competitive in the Latvian league and it would kill the domestic league. There is just more downsides than upsides. Especially since Latvian clubs are pretty open to Lithuanian kids who want to play for them as is (Alisauskas, Kaleinikovas, Verenis all being reasonably notable success stories).
 

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I guess Latvian 16-17 year olds playing in Estonian or Lithuanian league IN ADDITION to Latvia2 makes a bit more sense in helping to improve EE/LT hockey. So, let's say Marupe, who is a bit more wealthy, joining Lithuanian league, Kurbads playing in Estonia. IF, however, there is someone with ambition and money in EE or LT, it would be cool to see them in Latvian league.
 
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Updates from Zemgale:
Budget not bigger than EUR 1.5m
Will continue to also play in Latvian league
Abols continues as head coach
Focus on players who are on U20 NT radar, but more experienced players to be present
 

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So, 3 Lithuanian teams confirmed willing and ready to play in the Latvian league. Six Latvian teams (all from last season, except for Liepaja). They may call it the Baltic league, there isn't a decision yet, in such a case it would serve also as both Latvian and Lithuanian championship.

Overall, great to have Lithuanians onboard, but 3 teams at once is a lot and will bring down the level of play unfortunately. Also, I hope they won't decrease number of games to 4 rounds of 8 games. Latvian league has played 5 rounds in regular season in the past, so I hope they opt for that, even though it seems unlikely. But let's see.
 
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I do hope Lithuanians somehow attract some mystery foreigners to shore up their rosters otherwise they will finish in last three places by considerable margin.
 

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Is there any word on if Dinamo Riga will play in this league yet? They haven't even updated their website since the last KHL game they played!
 

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I do hope Lithuanians somehow attract some mystery foreigners to shore up their rosters otherwise they will finish in last three places by considerable margin.
or if those 3 teams gets all the best lituhanians to share, both from domnestic leagues and other leagues where there is lituhanians.
 

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Is there any word on if Dinamo Riga will play in this league yet? They haven't even updated their website since the last KHL game they played!
There were some rumors going around that they might help finance Olimp Riga's season. So there may be some collaboration there.
 
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or if those 3 teams gets all the best lituhanians to share, both from domnestic leagues and other leagues where there is lituhanians.
Sometimes it is funny how detached you are from reality, this is not one of those times. There are literally handful of professional Lithuanian players around and none of them will drop down to this Baltic league level, rest of the national team players are already playing for Lithuanian teams or even at worse level.
 

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Sometimes it is funny how detached you are from reality, this is not one of those times. There are literally handful of professional Lithuanian players around and none of them will drop down to this Baltic league level, rest of the national team players are already playing for Lithuanian teams or even at worse level.
The level of latvian league is not that bad. They could get a couple of players.
 

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So, LHF confirms 9 teams to take part. It's still the Latvian league, under Optibet hockey league name, but winner of the playoffs will be awarded as Baltic champion. Best Latvian and best Lithuanian team - national champions. Season to begin on September 3.

Dinamo Riga replaces Olimp Riga among the participants. Still, from what we've heard over the summer, it'll probably be the same Olimp core, just playing under Dinamo brand and with their financing.

Lithuanian teams - Kaunas City, Hockey Punks, Energija.

And, as I was afraid, 4 rounds of games. So 4*8 = 32. Certainly a way to increase the level of play - decrease already the ridiculously small number of games.
 
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