Confirmed with Link: Avs Sign Byram to ELC

[Thepoolmaster]

Byram is going to beat out Makar for the Calder

 

[henchman21]

We needed Ottawa to suck though, so it's not as easy as to say we've sucked for an entire decade when it was out of our hands. I mean we did suck for an entire decade, no need to hide that fact and we find our team is now in that position because of high-end 1st and 2nd round picks. But I wouldn't directly put Byram here because of the Matt Duchene trade even though that is the trade's history. Ottawa gave us Byram because of their own ineptitude, when they made the trade they were thinking the pick would be somewhere around 17th to 23rd.

But we acquired the pick through our own ineptitude. It was supposed to be in 2018, but the Sens sucked and we got lucky. If we didn't suck and Duchene was leading us to the promised land, we wouldn't have gotten that pick.

 

[cgf]

I figure he'll get a chance in camp and if he doesn't look out of place, will get his 9 games...with the avs stretching those out a little if needed.

If those 9 games go well then you keep him up until deciding for good before the 40-game mark...when he'd clock a season towards UFA...even if that means platooning him with Graves/Rosen as the third pairing PMD; so he's not overwhelmed and given plenty of time to observe / learn / adapt if he's not ready for a full time gig right away.

If you're going to use that logic, Byram comes from that too.

And it's not like we got Cale for how well we did in 2017...

 

[flyfysher]

Byram is going to beat out Makar for the Calder

Would Makar be eligible for the Calder? How about Byram for the Calder and Makar for the Norris. LOL!

 

[UncleRisto]

Would Makar be eligible for the Calder?

Yes, and he'll be a finalist.

 

[Bunch of Jurcos]

I thought we had a great D in Carolina but you guys are going to be a force for a long long time. Congrats on getting a star!

 

[the_fan]

Byram came from Ottawa's pick though...
Zadorov came from the Ryan O'Reilly - who was a second round pick - trade...
EJ came from the MBP trade...
Barrie came from drafting him past the first round...
Timmins is a 2nd round pick...

Only players who we got from sucking for a decade is Samuel Girard when we picked Duchene 3rd overall (which was the start of the rebuild) and Cale Makar (where Roy quit on the club three weeks before training camp).

Yeah but those 2nd round picks also were high 2nds because Avs sucked, and didn't EJ come from Shattenkirk trade who was a 14th pick?

 

[avsfan9]

Would Makar be eligible for the Calder? How about Byram for the Calder and Makar for the Norris. LOL!

Yes Makar is eligible for Calder so if he’s up for the Norris, the Calder is his too

 

[NeverBeNormal]

Love it, hope he's good to go this season with the big club, it'd solve any issues with depth. Remember when defense was this team's biggest weakness? Great job by Joe. Find some chemistry on the second line while Mack and Rants do their thing and the Avs are gonna be back up where they belong.

 

[UncleRisto]

Love it, hope he's good to go this season with the big club, it'd solve any issues with depth. Remember when defense was this team's biggest weakness? Great job by Joe. Find some chemistry on the second line while Mack and Rants do their thing and the Avs are gonna be back up where they belong.

I'd say that's the case to start the season.

 

[flyfysher]

I'd say that's the case to start the season.

It's possible they don't do well initially but I could see them improving rapidly and certainly be much better by season's end.

 

[The Abusement Park]

I'd say that's the case to start the season.

Long term our D is in a great spot. But losing Barrie is a huge loss to the top 4 and magnifies some of the questions on the backend short term.

 

[Raucherhusten]

Meh. Overrated and undersized.

Also, does this mean that we have to trade anyone over 23 now because we obviously build our team around Makar/Byram for a Cup run 2025?

 

[Vaslof]

Yes, and he'll be a finalist.

Well Heiskanen wasn't a finalist this year... you never know even after a great season.

 

[CalderKing21]

Business is about to pick up.

 

[Tommy Shelby]

Meh. Overrated and undersized.

Also, does this mean that we have to trade anyone over 23 now because we obviously build our team around Makar/Byram for a Cup run 2025?

Nah, only if they're Newport clients

 

[Barklez]

Well Heiskanen wasn't a finalist this year... you never know even after a great season.

If Makar is held to 30 points next year he won’t be a finalist either.

If Makar puts up 30 this year we’ll have bigger complaints than him not getting a Calder nod.

We’re all-in on Makar now, like it or not.

 

[Tralfamadore]

Let's hope he has a solid off season puts on some muscle/strength then impresses big time at camp.

 

[MarkT]

I'm definitely in the minority here, but I want him to get his 9 games then go back to junior. He's still a teenager, and the last thing I would want to do is screw up his development (see: Jost, Tyson) by having him play in the NHL then watch his performance fall off a cliff midway through the season. It's happened many times before, and when you don't have the AHL as an option it really handcuffs you. Let him go play with Trent Miner and dominate in Vancouver, then step into the NHL next year 100% ready both mentally and physically.

Honestly the only way I keep him up is if he's hands-down our best defenseman in those first 9 games and basically forces the team's hand. Even then I'd be carefully eyeing that 40 game mark as well.

 

[avsfan9]

I'm definitely in the minority here, but I want him to get his 9 games then go back to junior. He's still a teenager, and the last thing I would want to do is screw up his development (see: Jost, Tyson) by having him play in the NHL then watch his performance fall of a cliff midway through the season. It's happened many times before, and when you don't have the AHL as an option it rally handcuffs you. Let him go play with Trent Miner and dominate in Vancouver, then step into the NHL next year 100% ready both mentally and physically.

Honestly the only way I keep him up is if he's hands-down our best defenseman in those first 9 games and basically forces the team's hand. Even then I'd be carefully eyeing that 40 game mark as well.

I agree. I would like to see him in the world juniors this year and try to win a championship with Vancouver. We don’t need to rush him in to the nhl just yet

 

[Freudian]

Hopefully he has to be NHL ready to stick and not just good enough to play with Cole out.

Hard to tell where he is at and how much he can improve staying in Vancouver. That's what the training camps are for.

We all saw what being patient did for Makar, so him going back would probably not be the worst thing.

 

[flyfysher]

If Makar is held to 30 points next year he won’t be a finalist either.

If Makar puts up 30 this year we’ll have bigger complaints than him not getting a Calder nod.

We’re all-in on Makar now, like it or not.

True on all counts but I just can't see him accumulating less than 40 playing with MacKinnon and on 1st PP and OT. Makar has a cherubic mug but also has a solid physique. So I'm not as concerned about his stamina over the course of a season. It's more a matter of a lack of experience at the NHL level.

 

[CalderKing21]

Love it, hope he's good to go this season with the big club, it'd solve any issues with depth. Remember when defense was this team's biggest weakness? Great job by Joe. Find some chemistry on the second line while Mack and Rants do their thing and the Avs are gonna be back up where they belong.

I'm just glad Joe stopped being allergic to D men in the 1st round.

 

[Tommy Shelby]

Kakko is winning the Calder anyway. And Hughes plays in the East.

So Makar will probably finish 3rd or 4th in voting.

 

[Bone Breaker]

I like the fact that the expiration of Byram's ELC doesn't coincide with Mackinnon's contract year (presuming that he stay up this season).

In fact, it's nice that the contracts of all our core players are quite staggered/spread across the next 4 years:

(...)

2023

• Mackinnon
• Johnson
• Donskoi
• Compher

• + Newhook?

quite confident that Mack resigning alone will eat EJ's contract. just hope we don't need that cap space before that.