Rumor: AVS Proposals/Rumors/Free Agents & Roster Moves (related topics)
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cgf
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If the Oilers core was as successful as our has been these three seasons under Roykic, there would be less talk of breaking their core up...and unlike the oilers we've already had to move a core piece out to better round out our team in the future. Nevermind our core being more well rounded to begin with with Landy, Varly, EJ and Barrie on board.
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tigervixxxen
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hockeyfish
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Wow, where have I been. Also, just looked it up, 103 I think is the correct number.
tigervixxxen
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from the previous thread
I agree, but it does serve as a reminder how hard it is to commit to moving a core piece. Avs didn't want to move ROR but were somewhat forced to.
There is quite a bit of questions I would love to pose this management and coaching group regarding their tenure so far, but the most I can hope for is waiting for an interview a decade or so from now to maybe get some deeper insight.
Also, Thanks to ArWKo for that Data in the last thread! I'm still perusing through it
I agree, but it does serve as a reminder how hard it is to commit to moving a core piece. Avs didn't want to move ROR but were somewhat forced to.
There is quite a bit of questions I would love to pose this management and coaching group regarding their tenure so far, but the most I can hope for is waiting for an interview a decade or so from now to maybe get some deeper insight.
Also, Thanks to ArWKo for that Data in the last thread! I'm still perusing through it
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dahrougem2
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Lol the Oilers' defence has really been something else though. Since 2006-2007 they haven't had any defensemen close to EJ/Barrie/Beauchemin. I don't know if any goalie would help that team. Trending in the right direction, though, with Klefbom/Davidson/Nurse/Sekera
cgf
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dahrougem2
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If all 6 defensemen in October got hurt I still wouldn't have called up Nurse. I said it from the start but all my Oilers' fans friends said "Nurse is awesome he needs to be here!" and now they are realizing that Nurse looks so lost out there it could be disastrous. He's not physical, he's turning the puck over, he's nervous, they really aren't doing him any favours.
cgf
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What kind of contract do you guys think the Avs give Grigorenko this summer? He's become a pretty big part of our team the second half of this year, really done a good job gaining Patty's trust and has been producing at a decent clip lately for us also.
My guess is they sign him for 2 years at around 1.75-2M. I also really hope they can find a way to bring Boedker back for 4-4.5M. He's looked good here so far and I think he can be a regular 50-60 point guy playing in our Top 6 with better Centers then he had in ARI.
He'd be a cheaper option then the likes of Radulov/Eriksson/Okposo and give us more money to spend on Defense or Barrie/Mackinnon.
My guess is they sign him for 2 years at around 1.75-2M. I also really hope they can find a way to bring Boedker back for 4-4.5M. He's looked good here so far and I think he can be a regular 50-60 point guy playing in our Top 6 with better Centers then he had in ARI.
He'd be a cheaper option then the likes of Radulov/Eriksson/Okposo and give us more money to spend on Defense or Barrie/Mackinnon.
dahrougem2
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2 Years, 1.5M per season is what I think Grigorenko will get and I think he'll jump at the opportunity to sign that kind of contract here. I believe he likes it here.
Ya, I think if they can get him for that number they should do it for sure. I'd even push for like 3 years if he'd sign for under 2M. Watching him play the last couple of weeks I think he's really starting to figure things out. Especially on the defensive side of the game. Has his stick at the right areas a lot of the time, and he seems so much more poised and calm with the puck then any other forward we have(Soderberg being the only exception I think).
Really think he's on the cusp of a breakout. Wouldn't surprised me in the least to see him put up 45-50 Point next year if he gets more Top 6 minutes. Liking him more and more, and I wasn't his biggest supporter a couple months ago.
It might actually be a better idea for the Avs to sign Mack to a bridge deal(2 or 3 years in the 4.5-5M range) this year instead of a long term deal. With the cap going down, we might have a hard time working the cap this summer if we end up signing Mack to a big 7-8M contract. At the same time, it would also mean potentially having to pay him 9-10M after that bridge, but by then the Canadian dollar should be recovered, and we may be looking at a cap that's north of 75M rather then the potentially south of 70 we'll see next year.
tigervixxxen
Optimism=Delusional
He has 3 RFA years left, you don't want to do 3 years. I like the proposed 2 x 1.5. It's kinda hard to predict, that's definitely role player money but he can't really ask for more until he has some points to ask for it.
MacK already said he doesn't want a bridge, I don't think that's a good idea to force him into it.
MacK already said he doesn't want a bridge, I don't think that's a good idea to force him into it.
When did Mack say this? How many years he wants? 7-8? I think signing Mack now would be good time, before his true breakthrough. . I'd pay 6,5 mil per year to get it done. Maybe even 7 mil.
tigervixxxen
Optimism=Delusional
At what point do we consider moving Varly? I love him. But I actually can see Pickard being a better goalie long term.
It would leave a lot of cap space and we should be able to get a ton for him still.
Not necessarily saying I want it to happen. Because Varly is our best player like 75% of games but it's worth asking.
It would leave a lot of cap space and we should be able to get a ton for him still.
Not necessarily saying I want it to happen. Because Varly is our best player like 75% of games but it's worth asking.
Exactly. Their defense is still terrible and remember their forwards are not that good defensively either. Their team is just terrible built, just for offense..
You need players like Landeskog, ROR, Stastny etc.
UncleRisto
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Whenever Pickard is ready to take #1 spot. We can get veteran backup anytime. I dont think that will be problem. I'm not ready to trade Varly yet. Maybe after next season, If Pickard keeps his play up and Varly is so so. Obviously in the best case scenario Varly keeps playing awesome and Pickard is even better, then we could trade Varly for good value and keep Picks as #1.
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