We have no reason to believe that.
Makar, if anything, will be taking EJ's role. Barrie was good for us down the stretch and into playoffs, but if Makar can fill EJ's shoes, Barrie's role doesn't need to change at all. You could argue that Barrie will lose PP1 time, but I would argue that Makar should come into PP1 at the expense of Wilson/Kerfoot/Jost/Compher rather than Barrie.
Barrie isn't suddenly getting bad at hockey. He is still worth what he has proven up to this point. A new player coming into the league has no bearing on Barrie's skill or value. If Barrie becomes obsolete in a year or two, move him then.
Again, no.
Sometimes it feels like there are members here that genuinely think 9296 would be just as good if they were still playing in front of Hejda/Zanon/Guenin. Weird how the offence picked up when the defence quit sucking.
Even after watching Makar in the playoffs we're going to keep mischaracterizing him? Really?
Do you hate Yandle's contract as well? He seems like the comparable that makes the most sense. He's making 6.35 (8.7% of the cap when signed). Under an 83M cap that is 7.22, 85M cap it's 7.39.
Again, we have no reason to believe this.
If your whole argument is based on the assumption that Barrie's play will fall off a cliff after he starts to play more sheltered minutes then I don't know what to say to you.
If your main concern is paying too much for a guy that won't be filling the same role any more I'd tell you to look a little up and to the right, over Barrie's shoulder, at EJ who's hoping nobody notices he's getting paid to do a lot of things he isn't capable of any more.
No, Barrie’s role doesn’t NEED to change, but we’re going to want it to with what we expect from Makar, and we already started seeing it over the last 5 games of the sharks series.
I’m not saying Barrie is suddenly bad at hockey. I recognize is a very good offensive defenseman. But with the addition of Makar, we are a different team than we were in the past, which has ramifications and will impact Barrie.
Your argument about trading Barrie when he’s obsolete is extremely short sighted. No team will want that contract once it kicks in, forcing us to retain a significant amount. Look at Shattenkirk whose contract has quickly turned into negative value. That’s what you’ll be saddled with, but for much longer, especially as Barrie’s numbers decrease as he gets less first line/first PP minutes.
No, I don’t expect or want to have Guenin/Hejda types. But that doesn’t mean you lock the team in on a bad bloated (probably 6-8 year) contract to try and avoid that. I’ve already said that if we lose Barrie that we will need to add someone, whether it’s byram, Trouba, Spurgeon or a whole bunch of other guys.
Truthfully, I don’t hate the Yandle deal. But everything needs to be viewed in context. At that time, the panthers were coming off their 1st playoffs in 4 years and only 2nd playoffs in 16 years. It looked like they were a piece or 2 away from really contending and Brian Campbell was on his last legs. Most importantly, they had no one on their roster named Cale Salad Makar who was about to become the team’s PPQB.
Also, $$ wise, yandle signed a free agent deal (although technically his rights were traded prior to FA), meaning that he signed for top dollar. So while $7.25 was the exact amount I said was FMV for Tyson earlier, I also said that I expect him to give some sort of discount and won’t go above $7m. Even so, I still have reservations about giving him that much, especially for anything longer than 5 years.
Lastly, yes, EJ is a bit concerning. I do think he was really hurt (when is he not), especially in playoffs. Hopefully he regains form, but that contract only has 4 more seasons and isn’t woeful at $6m. Regardless, you don’t then double down and compound your problem by tying up $15m in EJ + Barrie.
