Nylanderthal
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Proposal: AVs - Flyers
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Tripod
I hate this team
Neuvirth was simply to exchange some cap hit and make the trade include goalie going both ways. It gives the Avs competition for Francouz or a goalie to be in the NHL while Franc. gets minutes in the AHL. Essentially, he is a 1 year or less placeholder.
I would not trade away any D protects as we are not as deep right now in near NHL guys.
Tripod
I hate this team
McMetal
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Ay, don't blame all of us for this nonsense.
The teams are just poor trading partners. Barrie isn't really needed on a blueline with Ghost. Nothing to see here. I'm open to moving Barrie because I think he ends up overpaid on his next deal, but the Flyers aren't a candidate even if I do like a ton of their young assets.
Patagonia
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Where did I state they were bad?
It seems they’re overrated when you believe any of the ndividual prospects are better than Barrie.
flyersfan018
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In reality, he’s actually quite excited about the thought of trading Barrie away.
Foppberg
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Yeah, thing to know about the OP is he's obsessed with trading Barrie. He's a little out there with his posting/thinking too, so.
Patagonia
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Barrie has certain value that I consider lower than you supporters. Flyer fans responses with even lower demands either reflects my over estimation or confirms you guys are completely off including paying $8M+. You really have no idea Barrie is worth so little and shouldn’t comment to embarrass yourself about my proposal when you think he is worth much more.
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Hockeypete49
How you like me now!
Wow does this suck or what?!!!!!!!!!!!! Brutal to say the least. At least I got a laugh out of it.
Hockeypete49
How you like me now!
Wow does this suck or what?!!!!!!!!!!!! Brutal to say the least. At least I got a laugh out of it.
He Is Knocking
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Significant difference between saying he’s worth more to our team than saying we think he is worth much more.
There’s absolutely no way he’s worth what you’ve proposed here.
How about not speaking for the rest of us, and telling us what we think he’s worth. Judging by this thread, seems your concept of his worth is a little “off” to say the least.
I don’t think you understand that even if Barrie is better now, he is not more valuable to the Flyers than Frost.
1. He’s redundant to a team that already has Ghost.
2, He’s a UFA in 2 years, exactly when the flyers are expected to enter contender status.
3. Frost fills a major organizational need
That’s not flyers fans overrating their prospects. It’s simply having a very basic understanding of their current position as an organization.
Not a single one of us Barrie fans think he has anywhere near the value you've suggested he has with your proposal.
So far out of touch with reality when it comes to pretty much everything
McMetal
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Barrie has lots of value, but two A level forward prospects isn't close. I mean, it's the same guy who got seven assets for Matt Duchene so anything's possible, but the Flyers org isn't run by idiots so I don't see how we could duplicate that feat. I'd rather see if we can use Barrie to squeeze somebody like Chia or Bergevin for this kind of overpayment, or make a hockey trade for a top six forward rather than futures that's more fair for both sides.
Pantokrator
Who's the clown?
From a Flyers perspective, there is too much effort and time placed by the organization in acquiring and stockpiling prospects to give them up. While none of them may ever play a game in the NHL (or in the case of Morin, another game), there is too much risk for the Flyers to give up Frost and Farabee. In many lists, Frost and Farabee are 2 of their top 3 prospects (along with Carter Hart). Next to Hart, Sandstrom is the Flyers best goalie prospect, and on a team where goaltending never seems to be solved, it would be better if they held on to him.
Defense is the Flyers strong suit in prospects, so acquiring a solid d-man, while enticing, doesn't help their long term need, which (assuming the d prospects pan out) is really the area the Flyers need to work on.
The Flyers are looking long term, and while Barrie would make them a better team immediately, long term he wouldn't be as helpful as the upside of these prospects.
Defense is the Flyers strong suit in prospects, so acquiring a solid d-man, while enticing, doesn't help their long term need, which (assuming the d prospects pan out) is really the area the Flyers need to work on.
The Flyers are looking long term, and while Barrie would make them a better team immediately, long term he wouldn't be as helpful as the upside of these prospects.
mja
Everything was beautiful, and nothing hurt
You're greatly underestimating the value of that package. The list of players the Flyers would willingly trade a package of Frost, Farabee, Morin, & Sandstrom for is exceedingly small, and Barrie's nowhere close to being on it, which isn't a knock on him. There's literally one guy on the Avs that I would offer that package for and he's not available.
Dr Quincy
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That is one really terrible proposal. I hate all things PHI, so I'd be thrilled if that happened.
Unfortunately, Hextall isn't a complete imbecile.
mja
Everything was beautiful, and nothing hurt
STAHP. There's no need to do that and it adds nothing to to discussion.
Yes, MacDonald and Ty are comparable. great job, very well thought out. I don't get people who resort to this kind of "revenge" proposal, like what do you get out of it?
Super Hans
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That's what happens when proposals this bad make it to a 3rd page.
This is a bad proposal. OP is very much lopsided in favor of the Avs. That said, Barrie is far and away the most valuable piece being discussed as part of the original deal.
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