Avalanche board mock draft/offseason (Part 2):

[Thepoolmaster]

Hmm I think the money was more then fair, but the term was a year or two short. I just think that him being 30, he's going to look for more long term security. This could be his last chance for a big contract.

Ok fair enough and I agree.

I will change the offer to

5 years at 4 million (basically same deal as PAP. 1 extra year for increase in cap)

 

[Lonewolfe2015]

Leon Draisaitl, 3rd overall --> 3rd overall
Alex Nedeljkovic, 38th overall --> 37th overall
Oskar Lindblom, 69th overall --> 138th overall
Maxim Letunov, 115th overall --> 52nd overall
Francis Perron, 123rd overall --> 190th overall
Kaapo Kahkonen, 129th overall --> 109th overall
Andreas Englund, 130th overall --> 40th overall
Axel Holmstrom, 131st overall --> 196th overall

Soooo... couple steals in Letunov and Englund, couple misses in Lindblom and Perron. Funny how my first two picks were dead on in terms of where they were drafted.

 

[Avsboy]

I'm re-signing Subban for $8 million AAV, 7 years. (Is that how this works?)
Eller - 3 years, $2.8 million AAV
I'd like to make an offer for Stralman - 5 years, $5 million AAV

 

[AslanRH]

I'm re-signing Subban for $8 million AAV, 7 years. (Is that how this works?)
Eller - 3 years, $2.8 million AAV
I'd like to make an offer for Stralman - 5 years, $5 million AAV

we decide to not bid on other UFAs until Monday. Gives teams the time to sign their own guys to deals that are voted fair.

I'll add Subban's deal though as a deal I'd not try to offersheet.

Both those RFA deals seem fair

 

[AslanRH]

I drafted as well as I thought I would
Reid Gardiner me: 2nd NHL: not drafted
Aaron Haydon me: 3rd NHL: 6th
Brett Moran: me: 3rd NHL: 4th
but at least both my drafted guys went to Dallas :

 

[AslanRH]

Ok fair enough and I agree.

I will change the offer to

5 years at 4 million (basically same deal as PAP. 1 extra year for increase in cap)

I'll change it and reset the votes

UFA re-signing offers and vote tally

 

[PAZ]

I drafted as well as I thought I would
Reid Gardiner me: 2nd NHL: not drafted
Aaron Haydon me: 3rd NHL: 6th
Brett Moran: me: 3rd NHL: 4th
but at least both my drafted guys went to Dallas :

Same. I think autopick might've actually given me a better draft

Adam Ollas Mattsson - 88th, NHL - 175th
Emil Johansson - 94th, NHL - 205th
Arkhip Nekolenko - 178th, NHL - undrafted
Linus Soderstrom - 208th, NHL - 95th

Autodrafted
Josh Sterk - undrafted
Jaedon Descheneau - 124th

 

[landy92mack29]

reinhart me-2nd nhl 2nd
fleury me-10 nhl 7th
tuch me- 24 nhl 18th
point me-39 nhl 79th
Thomas me-84 nhl 119th
sutter me-204 nhl 200th

not bad. at least all my picks were drafted

 

[AslanRH]

So, end of Saturday I think these RFAs that were offered contracts can all be considered agreed upon and added to the lineup

Columbus - All
Detroit - All (will need to have a new GM make their lineup and check cap space)
Edmonton- All except Petry who may need more input (current offer 4 years 12m, 3m AAV)
New Jersey - All
Buffalo - All
Chicago - did not have any
Colorado - All
Carolina - All
San Jose - All
Winnipeg - All except Frolic who needs more input (current offer 4 yrs 11.2m, 2.8m AAV) currently 2-1 in favor
NY Rangers - All except Kreider who needs more input (current offer 2 years 4.5m, 2.25m AAV)
Washington - no RFAs
Florida - All
Ottawa - All
Tampa Bay - All except Sustr and Panik may need discussed further

Also had evening offers from:
Boston
Arizona
Anaheim
Montreal
---Would like other GMs to review before calling them final

Still waiting on 11 teams to make their offers

 

[member 116861]

UFA
Thomas Vanek (Sign to 7 years/$6.5 million per with a full NTC)
Mike Santorelli (Sign to 2 years/$1.55 million per)

RFA
Chris Tanev (Sign to 4 years/$3.0 million per)
Jordan Schroeder (Sign to 1 year/$800,000 per)
Yannick Weber (Sign to 1 year/$750,000 per)
Yann Sauve (Qualified)
Brandon Archibald (Qualified)
Joe Cannata (Qualified)
Peter Andersson (Qualified)

LET GO
Zac Dalpe (Will not be Qualified)
Brandon De Fazio (Will not be Qualified)
Jeremy Welsh (Let Go)
Colin Stuart (Let Go)
Pascal Pelletier (Let Go)
Benn Ferriero (Let Go)
Alex Biega (Let Go)
Andrew Alberts (Let Go)
David Booth (Compliance Buy Out)

 

[InjuredChoker]

i think kreider needs to be on same range as killorn and schenn who got 2.5 mil. kreider produced at better pace and had good playoffs.

i assume i can sign hainsey as they offer him as much as he got and accepted from canes?

i'm fine with arizona offers.

boston offers.. maybe little more for pirri. same with bart. less term for fraser.

i think anaheim's offers for RFA's were fair (and more than that for DSP) except ROR and burmi imo. burmi 2.5 mil. ROR 6.5 mil. those numbers i can agree with.

eller.. fine with that. subban.. 8.5 mil i can agree with.

i also agree that brian boyle accepts that offer, as does d'agostini, bernier, robidas, scott and thorburn.

 

[InjuredChoker]

UFA
Thomas Vanek (Sign to 7 years/$6.5 million per with a full NTC)
Mike Santorelli (Sign to 2 years/$1.55 million per)

RFA
Chris Tanev (Sign to 4 years/$3.0 million per)
Jordan Schroeder (Sign to 1 year/$800,000 per)
Yannick Weber (Sign to 1 year/$750,000 per)
Yann Sauve (Qualified)
Brandon Archibald (Qualified)
Joe Cannata (Qualified)
Peter Andersson (Qualified)

LET GO
Zac Dalpe (Will not be Qualified)
Brandon De Fazio (Will not be Qualified)
Jeremy Welsh (Let Go)
Colin Stuart (Let Go)
Pascal Pelletier (Let Go)
Benn Ferriero (Let Go)
Alex Biega (Let Go)
Andrew Alberts (Let Go)
David Booth (Compliance Buy Out)

i'm fine with those RFAs.

santorelli needs at least double than that and i think vanek would test the market.

 

[Skip2myBordyloo]

Matt d'Agostini +
Brett Belemore +
Steve Bernier +
Brian Boyle +
Dan Boyle D +
Ryan Carter +
Mark Fayne +
Tom Gilbert - more money
Michail Grabovski +
Ales Hemsky +
Jerome Iginla +
Olli Jokinen - more money , especially if it's short term.
Anders Lindback +
Manny Malhotra +
Milan Michalek +
Adam Pardy
Tom Pyatt F +
Stephane Robidas +
John Scott F +
Paul Stastny - He'd be signed already for 6.25 I think.
Anton Stralman +
Chris Thorburn +
Daniel Winnik +

 

[tigervixxxen]

My Draft Results:

19. LW Nikita Scherbak >>> 26
28. D Anthony DeAngelo >>> 19 (Tampa actually drafted him )
50. C Nicolas Aube-Kubel >>> 48
71. LW Christian Dvorak >>> 58
80. D Blake Siebenaler >>> 77
104. C Juilen Nantel >>> 204 (Avs pick )
142. C Reid Duke >>> 169
170. D Daniel Walcott >>>140
200. D Miro Keskitalo >>> Not drafted

So not bad, more off in the late rounds but that's to be expected. Pick I was most off on I'll just chalk up to the Avs getting incredible value. I'm very happy with how my 1-3 rounds went, would have helped Tampa IRL.

 

[InjuredChoker]

don't agree with these so they get -

fayne (more term)
hemsky
grabo (money and term)


indifferent on other deals i haven't mention.

 

[cody275]

1st

#1 - Aaron Ekblad - #1
#6 - Michael Dal Colle -#5
#15 - Brandon Perlini -#12
#29 - Nick Schmaltz -#20


2nd

#31 - Brandon Lemieux - #31
#32 - Jakub Vrana - #13

4th

#108 - Ryan Rehill - #131
#111 - Miles Gendron - #70
#116 - Rinat Valiev - #68

5th

#137 - Kevin Labanc - #171

7th

#182 - Max Iafrate - Undrafted

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Really happy with how my draft went, given how the players went in the real draft.

 

[VikingAv]

This is the best I could do on notable UFA offers made in the thread.

and reading through the old thread I do believe we decided that if a good deal can be agreed upon by at least 5 GMs to re-sign a UFA rather than hit the market it can be done before bidding start (sorry, my mistake caused the confusion).


[table="head;width=1000]|Position|Current Team|Current Best Offer|Bidding Team|Votes +|Votes -
Matt d'Agostini|F|Buffalo|1 year 1.00m|Buffalo|3|
Brett Belemore|D|Carolina|2 years 2.4m (1.20m AAV)|Carolina|3|
Steve Bernier|F|Florida|2 years 2m (1.00m AAV)|Florida|3|
Brian Boyle|F|NY Rangers|4 years 12m (3.00m AAV)|NY Rangers|2|1
Dan Boyle|D|Florida|2 years 13m (6.50m AAV)|Florida |3|
Ryan Carter|F|New Jersey|2 years 1.7m (.850m AAV)|New Jersey|1|
Mark Fayne|D|New Jersey|3 years 10m (3.33m AAV)|New Jersey|1|
Tom Gilbert|D|Edmonton|3 years 3.75m (1.25m AAV)|Edmonton||4
Michail Grabovski|F|Washington|4 years 16m (4.00m AAV)|Washington||3
Ales Hemsky|F|Ottawa|5 years 20m (4.00m AAV)|Ottawa|1|
Jerome Iginla|F|Boston|1 year 5m|Boston|1|2
Olli Jokinen|F|Winnipeg|1 year 1.50m|Winnipeg||4
Anders Lindback|G|Tampa|3 years 6.75m (2.25m AAV)|Tampa|4|
Manny Malhotra|F|Carolina|1 year 1.00m|Carolina|2|
Milan Michalek|F|Ottawa|3 years 15m (5.00m AAV)|Ottawa||3
Adam Pardy|D|Winnipeg|1 year 1.70m|Winnipeg|3|
Tom Pyatt|F|Tampa|3 year 4.5m (1.50m AAV)|Tampa|3|
Stephane Robidas|D|Anaheim|2 years 5.5mil + (2.75m AAV|Anaheim|1|
John Scott|F|Buffalo|1 year 900k|Buffalo|3|
Paul Stastny|C|Colorado|7 years 43.75m (6.25m AAV)|Colorado|4|
Anton Stralman|D|NY Rangers|5 years 21m (4.20m AAV)|NY Rangers|2|
Chris Thorburn|F|Winnipeg|2 years 1.90m (.950m AAV)|Winnipeg|3|
Radim Vrbata|F|Arizona|3 years 12m (4.00m AAV)|Arizona|1|2
Daniel Winnik|F|Anaheim|3 years 7m (2.33m AAV)|Anaheim|1|
[/table]

If we get agreement (5 or more votes? or majority in the debate?) I think we can call it final and remove them from the list.

Approved
Jonas Hiller|G|Winnipeg|5 years 27.5m (5.50m AAV)|Winnipeg

San Jose offered contracts for both Stalock and Brown (post #70), but they were both honored contracts that happened during our draft. Both 2 years, $1,6 and 1,2 mill respectively.

 

[InjuredChoker]

Zach Boychuk ‏@ZachBoychuk 11 t
An Australian got drafted to the @NHL Wonder what his chirps would be. "My pet kangaroo can play hockey better than you mate" @NathanWalks10

eklund reports that boychuk is available after that classless tweet (e4).

 

[VikingAv]

UFA votes:
Nay: Gilbert, Grabovski, Jokinen, Michalek, Vrbata and Winnik. The rest are ok.

 

[AslanRH]

San Jose offered contracts for both Stalock and Brown (post #70), but they were both honored contracts that happened during our draft. Both 2 years, $1,6 and 1,2 mill respectively.

Yep, since they were already done, they did not need voted on.

Although it won't matter much you may want to edit the Wingels contract in post 70 to 4 years as you mentioned in a later post.

 

[AslanRH]

UFA
Thomas Vanek (Sign to 7 years/$6.5 million per with a full NTC)
Mike Santorelli (Sign to 2 years/$1.55 million per)

I added these to the table
I voted no on Santorelli as I think he'll try to capitalize on a good year and get more term (4-5), even at slightly less salary. It is close though as that would be a good pay raise for him.

 

[AslanRH]

This is the best I could do on notable UFA offers made in the thread.

and reading through the old thread I do believe we decided that if a good deal can be agreed upon by at least 5 GMs to re-sign a UFA rather than hit the market it can be done before bidding start (sorry, my mistake caused the confusion).


[table="head;width=1000]|Position|Current Team|Current Best Offer|Bidding Team|Votes +|Votes -
Ryan Carter|F|New Jersey|2 years 1.7m (.850m AAV)|New Jersey|3|
Mark Fayne|D|New Jersey|3 years 10m (3.33m AAV)|New Jersey|3|1
Tom Gilbert|D|Edmonton|3 years 3.75m (1.25m AAV)|Edmonton||6
Michail Grabovski|F|Washington|4 years 16m (4.00m AAV)|Washington|1|5
Ales Hemsky|F|Ottawa|5 years 20m (4.00m AAV)|Ottawa|3|1
Jerome Iginla|F|Boston|1 year 5m|Boston|3|2
Olli Jokinen|F|Winnipeg|1 year 1.50m|Winnipeg||6
Manny Malhotra|F|Carolina|1 year 1.00m|Carolina|4|
Milan Michalek|F|Ottawa|3 years 15m (5.00m AAV)|Ottawa|1|4
Stephane Robidas|D|Anaheim|2 years 5.5mil + (2.75m AAV|Anaheim|4|
Mike Santorelli|F|Vancouver|2 years 3.1m (1.50m AAV)|Vancouver|1|1
Anton Stralman|D|NY Rangers|5 years 21m (4.20m AAV)|NY Rangers|4|
Thomas Vanek|F|Vancouver|7 years 45.5m (6.50m AAV)|Vancouver|2|
Radim Vrbata|F|Arizona|3 years 12m (4.00m AAV)|Arizona|2|3
Daniel Winnik|F|Anaheim|3 years 7m (2.33m AAV)|Anaheim|2|1
[/table]

If we get agreement (5 or more votes? or majority in the debate?) I think we can call it final and remove them from the list.

Approved
Jonas Hiller|G|Winnipeg|5 years 27.5m (5.50m AAV)|Winnipeg
Matt d'Agostini|F|Buffalo|1 year 1.00m|Buffalo
Steve Bernier|F|Florida|2 years 2m (1.00m AAV)|Florida
Anders Lindback|G|Tampa|3 years 6.75m (2.25m AAV)|Tampa
John Scott|F|Buffalo|1 year 900k|Buffalo
Paul Stastny|C|Colorado|7 years 43.75m (6.25m AAV)|Colorado
Chris Thorburn|F|Winnipeg|2 years 1.90m (.950m AAV)|Winnipeg
Adam Pardy|D|Winnipeg|1 year 1.70m|Winnipeg
Tom Pyatt|F|Tampa|3 year 4.5m (1.50m AAV)|Tampa
Brett Belemore|D|Carolina|2 years 2.4m (1.20m AAV)|Carolina
Brian Boyle|F|NY Rangers|4 years 12m (3.00m AAV)|NY Rangers
Dan Boyle|D|Florida|2 years 13m (6.50m AAV)|Florida

Updated (8:00am Denver time) with many new approvals!

I will be mostly out today but will try to keep up every couple hours, but if someone else wants to manage the table it is fairly easy to just Quote and edit the post. (Post #135 is where I've been editing)

 

[Rumplesnipeskin]

Notable STL RFA's:

Offers
Berglund (accepted) 3.7 AAV
Schwartz 3 yrs @ 3.5 AAV
Sobotka 1 yr @ 1.4 (qualifies)

**I don't really want to have to deal with my minor leaguers/non-roster players, I am hope we will just assume they wre re-signed/qualified?

 

[InjuredChoker]

Notable STL RFA's:

Offers
Berglund (accepted) 3.7 AAV
Schwartz 3 yrs @ 3.5 AAV
Sobotka 1 yr @ 1.4 (qualifies)

**I don't really want to have to deal with my minor leaguers/non-roster players, I am hope we will just assume they wre re-signed/qualified?

yeah, sobotka will need more than that.

i'm fine with schwartz deal.

 

[AslanRH]

Notable STL RFA's:

Offers
Berglund (accepted) 3.7 AAV
Schwartz 3 yrs @ 3.5 AAV
Sobotka 1 yr @ 1.4 (qualifies)

**I don't really want to have to deal with my minor leaguers/non-roster players, I am hope we will just assume they wre re-signed/qualified?

I'm working on that assumption as well except on highly notable players in order to keep out the clutter.

Schwartz is a good deal
Sobotka will need more term and more money. (needs that security since he will be throwing fisticuffs with Duchene a couple times a year and concussions are a league wide problem)