Cotton
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The people hyping Matthews don't see how he is being overhyped and only believe that Laine is being overhyped.
Matthews isn't being overhyped.
The people hyping Matthews don't see how he is being overhyped and only believe that Laine is being overhyped.
The people hyping Matthews don't see how he is being overhyped and only believe that Laine is being overhyped.
How is Matthews being overhyped?
Indeed I do, which is why I find posters like you so entertaining. But the overhyping of Laine should at least be backed up. Matthews is the BPA, he is the clear #1 pick, he has been called An Eichel-level talent, he has been projected to be a franchise talent and all of this is easily accessible online. So when Laine fanboys want to make a claim in order to pump-his-tires while also devaluing AM to his level they should back it up by legit sources, no?
But when 10 NHL scouts were surveyed by TSN in late January/early February, all 10 had Matthews at No. 1. This time, in a survey of the same 10 scouts – conducted in the run-up to Saturday's NHL draft lottery – two of the 10 said Laine is now No. 1 on their team's lists. Others suggested they had to think long and hard about their decision to keep Matthews at No. 1.
Indeed I do, which is why I find posters like you so entertaining. But the overhyping of Laine should at least be backed up. Matthews is the BPA, he is the clear #1 pick, he has been called An Eichel-level talent, he has been projected to be a franchise talent and all of this is easily accessible online. So when Laine fanboys want to make a claim in order to pump-his-tires while also devaluing AM to his level they should back it up by legit sources, no?
People claiming that he's one of the best 1OAs since Crosby, that if he had gone to the NCAA as a 17 year old he would have challenged 18 year old Eichel for the Hobey Baker, there is a "consensus" that had he been in last year's draft he would have gone 2nd OA, Laine isn't even close to his talent level, he has 90 pt potential...
People claiming that he's one of the best 1OAs since Crosby, that if he had gone to the NCAA as a 17 year old he would have challenged 18 year old Eichel for the Hobey Baker, there is a "consensus" that had he been in last year's draft he would have gone 2nd OA, Laine isn't even close to his talent level, he has 90 pt potential...
People claiming that he's one of the best 1OAs since Crosby, that if he had gone to the NCAA as a 17 year old he would have challenged 18 year old Eichel for the Hobey Baker, there is a "consensus" that had he been in last year's draft he would have gone 2nd OA, Laine isn't even close to his talent level, he has 90 pt potential...
People claiming that he's one of the best 1OAs since Crosby, that if he had gone to the NCAA as a 17 year old he would have challenged 18 year old Eichel for the Hobey Baker, there is a "consensus" that had he been in last year's draft he would have gone 2nd OA, Laine isn't even close to his talent level, he has 90 pt potential...
Not according to Bob Mckenzie, he would be considered a legitimate source would he not? Matthew may be the #1 ranked player, I would not disagree with this. But claiming he is a slam dunk clear #1, as I think you are saying he is. Is not accurate according to Mckenzie's report.
People claiming that he's one of the best 1OAs since Crosby, that if he had gone to the NCAA as a 17 year old he would have challenged 18 year old Eichel for the Hobey Baker, there is a "consensus" that had he been in last year's draft he would have gone 2nd OA, Laine isn't even close to his talent level, he has 90 pt potential...
Matthews isn't being overhyped.
Game is the most legit source. What happens on the ice.
Not what someone writes and projects or how many people say something. Is everything in your life this authority based? Someone needs to tell you how things are, you can't do the research yourself? Don't appeal to authority or consensus with me, I loathe logical fallacy.
Laine is leading the world championships in scoring. You apparently don't understand why it's special even though it has been shown by historical stats that nobody has ever done that at his age. When people completely ignore and downplay facts like that, all it shows is their ridiculous bias.
That's you argument for overhyping? LOL. Opinions of fans and scouts isn't overhyping.
But it is, if I make a poll right now asking who's better between these two kids the first 10 votes could go either way, it simply depends on who the first 10 posters are. But the longer it's up and the morse posters vote the more accurate the results will be. BobMac spoke to 10 scouts and 2 of them picked Laine, who is currently ranked 3rd by ISS, had he kep going that 20% would of shrunk dramatically.
Bob also said most EU scouts he talked to think Laine is better, but in the same interview that was posted in the other thread he said there is likely a bias there.
So Bob is saying these EU scouts who think Laine is better are biased. Because Bobs word is gold right.
People claiming that he's one of the best 1OAs since Crosby, that if he had gone to the NCAA as a 17 year old he would have challenged 18 year old Eichel for the Hobey Baker, there is a "consensus" that had he been in last year's draft he would have gone 2nd OA, Laine isn't even close to his talent level, he has 90 pt potential...
No, it shows rational thought and analytical ability. The number of goals he scores in this tournament is fairly inconsequential, anecdotal support at best.
Game is the most legit source. What happens on the ice.
Not what someone writes and projects or how many people say something. Is everything in your life this authority based? Someone needs to tell you how things are, you can't do the research yourself? Don't appeal to authority or consensus with me, I loathe logical fallacy.
Laine is leading the world championships in scoring. You apparently don't understand why it's special even though it has been shown by historical stats that nobody has ever done that at his age. When people completely ignore and downplay facts like that, all it shows is their ridiculous bias.
Must be some outlier leaf fans/ Matthews fans..
-Mcdavid..
-Not likely, Eichel has a year on Matthews development wise
-The consensus was actually stated that he would likely have gone 3rd OVR
-Laine is quite close talent wise to Matthews (I still think Matthews is better though)
-I would say Matthews has PPG potential while having a solid two-way game.
Some Laine/jets fans are also hyping Laine just as much if not more than Matthews fans, claiming he'll be the best player in the world if he overcomes his weakness's.
If you ignore historical data in your "rational thought and analytical ability" then you might want to look those up again.
When you are this clueless, ignoring the level of the tournament and historical comparisons to former or current greats, you should not even type the words "rational thought".
I doubt posters are better sources than Bob's 10 scouts. You can't get a more reputable sample of scouts than Bob's list can you? Matthews and Laine both played in Europe this year. EU scouts would have seen them the most would they have not? Thus I do not understand why they would favour one over the other as your claim seems to suggest.
Matthews will go as No 1 in coming draft. Laines performance will not change it. Consider following and you will realize why.
If Toronto picks Matthews and also gets Stamkos the team will have two lines to build an offensive around. Both are centers and can play vital roles in PP. The team will benefit from having two amazing centers. If Toronto picks Laine I am afraid of seeing only one offensive line,which makes the team vounerable and too dependent on one producing line. The entire team gets a far more solid core with Matthews. I say this despite having the feeling Laine will be more productive. Toronto simply NEEDS Matthews.
Cheers.....
Is 8 out of 10 not considered a general consensus?