Auston Matthews vs. Elias Pettersson

[jetsforever]

This has to be Matthews.

 

[Blender]

Just checking here, because there are some sad people who judge a player negatively all because he beat their favourite player in a poll at another thread.

Instead of being reliant on statistics, trying use the eye test as well and have the ability to understand his circumstances and the level of players he plays with on a daily basis.

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I have watched 6 of the 9 games he has played. The eye test confirms the stats, he's very skilled but only producing chances in short bursts.

Feel free to actually address the stats though.

 

[Dondini]

LOL oh look YET ANOTHER poll in which a player with significantly less experience and proven production winning over a Leafs player. Zzzz classic HFBoards.

Tbh I think a lot of people are voting for EP to get a reaction out of leafs fans. At least that’s why I did anyways haha. Could EP be better going forward? Sure why not? Can anyone really make a proper analysis this early into his career. No and this poll probably shouldn’t have been made

 

[Blade Paradigm]

I'd be shocked if anyone picks EP over Matthews after two years.

Pettersson has more potential to grow as a player, both figuratively and literally.

He's 6'2'', but only 176 lbs. He has very little balance against bigger players right now, yet despite all that he has been phenomenal.

 

[Subway Schenn]

EP definitely. Matthews sucks.

 

[vcanuck]

matthews lottery ticket, EP40 5th overall

 

[Plural]

Pettersson has more potential to grow as a player, both figuratively and literally.

He's 6'2'', but only 176 lbs. He has very little balance against bigger players right now, yet despite all that he has been phenomenal.

He's very promising player and one of the better youngsters (at least looks like) in the game. But honestly, I don't see him being better than AM.

 

[Sniperr]

Voted Pettersson because I think Perttersson will be the better ice hockey player. The hype is absolutely real. Matthews is obviously the safer choice.

 

[Eat The Rich]

Tbh I think a lot of people are voting for EP to get a reaction out of leafs fans. At least that’s why I did anyways haha. Could EP be better going forward? Sure why not? Can anyone really make a proper analysis this early into his career. No and this poll probably shouldn’t have been made

TL;DR - I have no integrity.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Matthews is much better than Pettersson.

Leave it up to HF to not be able to put recency bias aside.

What recency bias?
Matthews was a PPG player last year.
Some people expect EP to do better than that. It seems like a reasonable expectation. Both are great young players. Clearly homerism aside neither is ‘much better’ than the other.

 

[Jozay]

What recency bias?
Matthews was a PPG player last year.
Some people expect EP to do better than that. It seems like a reasonable expectation. Both are great young players. Clearly homerism aside neither is ‘much better’ than the other.

Matthews has shown to be an elite player for 155 games.

Pettersson has shown to be an elite player for 9 games.

Im not doubting that Pettersson is gonna be an elite player, but to say he's close to Matthews is just not the case. Its been 9 games. He might (and probably will) have similar point totals to Matthews in the future when he hits 155 games, but right now its way too early to put him at Matthews level.

Let Pettersson show it for a full season, then maybe this can actually be a discussion

 

[Blade Paradigm]

He's very promising player and one of the better youngsters (at least looks like) in the game. But honestly, I don't see him being better than AM.

Pettersson creates so much with his intelligence, and his stick-handling and craftiness with the puck are arguably top-tier in the NHL. He has so naturally gifted with the puck -- powerful, snappy shot; crisp, perfect passes; the ability to swivel, fake out defenders and stick-handle smoothly and deceptively in tight spaces.

He is such a dangerous player every time he has the puck, and for the first time in years there has been a Vancouver player who makes the crowd "ooh" and "aah" several times per game.

He also has great speed and edgework. He can stutter-step and carve a path around a defender, and he can wait patiently with the puck for just the right moment to strike. He has a complete skill set, and every single skill is of a high-level quality. He is one of the most talented finesse players in the game -- based only on everyone's play this season thus far, he has been arguably the best.

Until the last couple of games, he has been playing with Loui Eriksson and Nikolay Goldobin. There is so much room for improvement still. What you're seeing right now is one player imposing his will on games.

Like Brian Burke said a few weeks ago, there is no ceiling to what this player is capable of. He has so far transcended all expectations, so it's tough to predict a limit to his potential.

 

[Ace of Hades]

Matthews has shown to be an elite player for 155 games.

Pettersson has shown to be an elite player for 9 games.

Im not doubting that Pettersson is gonna be an elite player, but to say he's close to Matthews is just not the case. Its been 9 games. He might (and probably will) have similar point totals to Matthews in the future when he hits 155 games, but right now its way too early to put him at Matthews level.

Let Pettersson show it for a full season, then maybe this can actually be a discussion

Read the thread again. Obviously AM is the better player since he's more proven but..

No one is asking who is better right now.

The question is who do you take in the future.

As of now EP is tracking to have the better rookie season than Matthews all while playing with lesser linemates/worser team.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Matthews has shown to be an elite player for 155 games.

Pettersson has shown to be an elite player for 9 games.

Im not doubting that Pettersson is gonna be an elite player, but to say he's close to Matthews is just not the case. Its been 9 games. He might (and probably will) have similar point totals to Matthews in the future when he hits 155 games, but right now its way too early to put him at Matthews level.

Well this is called Hockey Futures board for a reason. Technically we should wait until players retire to assess who is better. EP will always have played two less seasons than Matthews and that won’t change. If we wait for 155 games then some will say let’s see if he can keep it up for 300 games. Just like many said after Barzal’s rookie season.
Anyways I expect both to be stars and don’t really buy the one is much better than the other argument. As I said I expect that EP will do better than a PPG this season.

 

[Jozay]

Read the thread again. Obviously AM is the better player since he's more proven but..

No one is asking who is better right now.

The question is who do you take in the future.

So people are using a 9 game sample size to make this decision?

 

[spiny norman]

Since many of you here in this thread are only interested in throwing insults at each other ...

Closed.