Player Discussion Auston Matthews Discussion

[pdson]

He is a better player than Matthews this year

Plays with bums and is outproducing matthews again

Bull

 

[Anthrax442]

What a feat. One day Matthews can be as prolific as Bobby MacMann

 

[Evilhomer]

He is a better player than Matthews this year

Plays with bums and is outproducing matthews again

I mean this in all seriousness - I doubt you can find a single rational Bruins fan who would agree with this.

 

[Menzinger]

He is a better player than Matthews this year

Plays with bums and is outproducing matthews again

He also had the fraction of defensive responsibilities that a centre does . He's also more sheltered in his overall usage

 

[al secord]

He's aight.

 

[stickty111]

You hope he's saved his best for the playoffs.

 

[hamzarocks]

He also had the fraction of defensive responsibilities that a centre does . He's also more sheltered in his overall usage

Producing with Coyle + Zacha as his 1C and a 70pt marchand is not something you would expect.

He is performing better than most would expect as the Bruins lack elite pffensive talent.

Matthews has better offensive support with 1 of Marner/Nylander at 5v5 most of the year and then both on the PP.

At worst, Pasta is having similar caliber season to Matthews.

The top 3 for hart is locked

4-8 will be some combo of Panarin, Matthews, Pasta, Hellybuck

 

[HellasLEAF]

A good looking goal for 60. And nice celly.

The Matthews guys in the stands made it complete the tv was loving them lol.

 

[Maplebeasts]

He is a better player than Matthews this year

Plays with bums and is outproducing matthews again

Centers>wingers. Especially when the centre is a good defensive player to match.

 

[GQS]

You hope he's saved his best for the playoffs.

That's what I'm waiting and hoping for from Matthews as well. Regular season success is great, but I"m look for him to show up and play like a superstar in the playoffs and lead this team to a very long playoff run.

 

[WillyC]

60 goals in 2 of the last 3 seasons… dude is a monster.

 

[Contenderorpretender]

Did matthews just lose the lady Bing tonight with 12pim? 3x what he had all season.

 

[hamzarocks]

Centers>wingers. Especially when the centre is a good defensive player to match.

Matthews definately isnt better than Kucherov this year or nearly every year since 2017

C > W is often the case but not always

Matthews cant be 20-30 pt back of a winger and be considered the better player.

Panarin is generally a good defensive winger as well and produces comparable to Matthews.

You can have Matthews ahead of Panarin maybe, but very close. No argument for him vs Kucherov though

 

[The Podium]

Matthews definately isnt better than Kucherov this year or nearly every year since 2017

C > W is often the case but not always

Matthews cant be 20-30 pt back of a winger and be considered the better player.

Panarin is generally a good defensive winger as well and produces comparable to Matthews.

You can have Matthews ahead of Panarin maybe, but very close. No argument for him vs Kucherov though

5v5 Kucherov is nearly net even for Tampa. Kucherov literally is a PP specialist at this point.

So ya, a pretty big argument

 

[pdson]

5v5 Kucherov is nearly net even for Tampa. Kucherov literally is a PP specialist at this point.

So ya, a pretty big argument

Matthews > Kucherov and it's not even close Matthews can actually play defense

 

[hamzarocks]

5v5 Kucherov is nearly net even for Tampa. Kucherov literally is a PP specialist at this point.

So ya, a pretty big argument

Look at how bad the Bolts team is top to bottom defensively

Goaltending is horrific, there defense has hedman + perbix maybe as guys that should be on an NHL contending tema (#1D and # 5D)

Kucherov has like a 1.8ppg against playoff teams. Hes willed the bolts into the playoffs when everyone there was sucking ass.

Matthews is pacing for ~110 pts vs Kucherov who is close to ~140

Matthews hasnt been the best player on the team this whole year with Nylander outplaying him the first 30/35 games

Kucherov hasnt had that type of support/linemate quality yet is still ~30% more productive than Matthews.

Matthews won't produce as much on the PP if you put him on tampa as hes a shooter and not a play maker there with tampa not having a marner or nylander type passer and Matthews not being a good play maker thos season

Matthews wont be a hart or lindsay finalist this year, while Kucherov will

 

[The Podium]

Look at how bad the Bolts team is top to bottom defensively

Goaltending is horrific, there defense has hedman + perbix maybe as guys that should be on an NHL contending tema (#1D and # 5D)

Kucherov has like a 1.8ppg against playoff teams. Hes willed the bolts into the playoffs when everyone there was sucking ass.

Matthews is pacing for ~110 pts vs Kucherov who is close to ~140

Matthews hasnt been the best player on the team this whole year with Nylander outplaying him the first 30/35 games

Kucherov hasnt had that type of support/linemate quality yet is still ~30% more productive than Matthews.

Matthews won't produce as much on the PP if you put him on tampa as hes a shooter and not a play maker there with tampa not having a marner or nylander type passer and Matthews not being a good play maker thos season

Matthews wont be a hart or lindsay finalist this year, while Kucherov will

Put Kucherov at C with defensive responsibilities and he’s not scoring 140 points.

And as great as Nylander has been, he’s still not a better player or having a better season than Matthews. Matthews is keeping pace with Nylander offensively, again playing C with defensive responsibilities.

 

[hamzarocks]

Put Kucherov at C with defensive responsibilities and he’s not scoring 140 points.

And as great as Nylander has been, he’s still not a better player or having a better season than Matthews. Matthews is keeping pace with Nylander offensively, again playing C with defensive responsibilities.

Defensive responsibilities are always overstated on here and people pretend it bridges the 30 pt gap

Put Matthews on Tampa and he isnt scoring 60 goals or 100 pts when point and stamkos can barely muster a ppg season the first 50 games of the year.

Centers get overrated incredibly here.

On the main boards people do it with Crosby once his offensive game began to fell off

Leaf fans here do it with Matthews when comparing to clearly superior players.

A player getting 30 pieced despite better linemates shows he is an inferior player to a winger.

Matthews is a generational goal scorer but he isnt a generational offensive player.

Kucherov is going toe to toe with Mcdavid whose potentially the GOAT. That is more impressive than 60+ goals and 110 pts with good defense for a star player in a non-defensive shutdown role

Anyways it doesn't matter. Ive gone off topic and screw kucherov and other players lol now thar I think about it

Congrats to Matthews on goal 60. Having a top end year and great bounce back from last year.

Hopefully he keeps em coming and dominates playoffs with a Smythe.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Defensive responsibilities are always overstated on here and people pretend it bridges the 30 pt gap

Put Matthews on Tampa and he isnt scoring 60 goals or 100 pts when point and stamkos can barely muster a ppg season the first 50 games of the year.

Centers get overrated incredibly here.

On the main boards people do it with Crosby once his offensive game began to fell off

Leaf fans here do it with Matthews when comparing to clearly superior players.

A player getting 30 pieced despite better linemates shows he is an inferior player to a winger.

Matthews is a generational goal scorer but he isnt a generational offensive player.

Kucherov is going toe to toe with Mcdavid whose potentially the GOAT. That is more impressive than 60+ goals and 110 pts with good defense for a star player in a non-defensive shutdown role

Anyways it doesn't matter. Ive gone off topic and screw kucherov and other players lol now thar I think about it

Congrats to Matthews on goal 60. Having a top end year and great bounce back from last year.

Hopefully he keeps em coming and dominates playoffs with a Smythe.

Disagree. It's quite valuable, and you shouldn't overlook it.


And, he's better than either of them, so...

 

[Welsh Maple Leaf]

Defensive responsibilities are always overstated on here and people pretend it bridges the 30 pt gap

Put Matthews on Tampa and he isnt scoring 60 goals or 100 pts when point and stamkos can barely muster a ppg season the first 50 games of the year.

Centers get overrated incredibly here.

On the main boards people do it with Crosby once his offensive game began to fell off

Leaf fans here do it with Matthews when comparing to clearly superior players.

A player getting 30 pieced despite better linemates shows he is an inferior player to a winger.

Matthews is a generational goal scorer but he isnt a generational offensive player.

Kucherov is going toe to toe with Mcdavid whose potentially the GOAT. That is more impressive than 60+ goals and 110 pts with good defense for a star player in a non-defensive shutdown role

Anyways it doesn't matter. Ive gone off topic and screw kucherov and other players lol now thar I think about it

Congrats to Matthews on goal 60. Having a top end year and great bounce back from last year.

Hopefully he keeps em coming and dominates playoffs with a Smythe.

You are having a mare by here

 

[DraftSchmaft]

Defensive responsibilities are always overstated on here and people pretend it bridges the 30 pt gap

Put Matthews on Tampa and he isnt scoring 60 goals or 100 pts when point and stamkos can barely muster a ppg season the first 50 games of the year.

Centers get overrated incredibly here.

On the main boards people do it with Crosby once his offensive game began to fell off

Leaf fans here do it with Matthews when comparing to clearly superior players.

A player getting 30 pieced despite better linemates shows he is an inferior player to a winger.

Matthews is a generational goal scorer but he isnt a generational offensive player.

Kucherov is going toe to toe with Mcdavid whose potentially the GOAT. That is more impressive than 60+ goals and 110 pts with good defense for a star player in a non-defensive shutdown role

Anyways it doesn't matter. Ive gone off topic and screw kucherov and other players lol now thar I think about it

Congrats to Matthews on goal 60. Having a top end year and great bounce back from last year.

Hopefully he keeps em coming and dominates playoffs with a Smythe.

Matthews overall game impact is ranked no.1 most seasons though (offense + defense)

I'll admit he was irresponsible defensively this regular season though, but on average his overall impact exceeds McDavids and Kucherovs. If you think Nylander is bad with fly-by's (in the sense of how he gets thrown under the bus here), you should check out Kucherov.

You really think Matthews isn't winning a cup if you swap him with Kucherov on those stacked Tampa teams? He wins the Cup easy and Tampa probably has one more to their name as well.

 

[Mess]

 

[DraftSchmaft]

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60 goal seasons are worth more than 100 point seasons.

And quite frankly Matthews didn't have much support to rack up elite assists this year. Marner was on a 20 goal pace for the first 20 games and now isn't even playing to end the season, and it took over half a season for the depth to join the goal party.

 

[Shooter2x]

And quite frankly Matthews didn't have much support to rack up elite assists this year. Marner was on a 20 goal pace for the first 20 games and now isn't even playing to end the season, and it took over half a season for the depth to join the goal party.

Why does this even need to be stated out loud. It should be common knowledge.

If Bertuzzi started the season with his current 40 goal trend, and Marner started the season hot, Matthews would sweep the awards this year.

 

[hamzarocks]

Why does this even need to be stated out loud. It should be common knowledge.

If Bertuzzi started the season with his current 40 goal trend, and Marner started the season hot, Matthews would sweep the awards this year.

Delusion typical from this fandom

Why does this even need to be stated out loud. It should be common knowledge.

If Bertuzzi started the season with his current 40 goal trend, and Marner started the season hot, Matthews would sweep the awards this year.

Matthews has a career of being a non-elite play maker

It isnt a 1 year thing