Here’s the criteria TSN applied:
1. The player’s impact on the team that drafted them.
2. The player’s performance over the totality of his NHL career
3. The player’s achievements relative to those who were drafted No. 2 and 3
For the Leafs, Gary Leeman and Wilf Paiement had more points in a season then Sundin. Mats Sundin goes down as a good Leaf with plenty of fellow company like Olczyk, Vaive,
Bill Derlago, Phil Kessel, John Anderson. He was never as good as Doug Gilmour and perhaps one of the least emotional leaders the Leafs have ever had. Big talented forward that
could get a goal and two assists in games he just mailed in. Clark made impacts that shut off the rest of the world off until everyone came to their senses.
Here’s the criteria TSN applied:
1. The player’s impact on the team that drafted them.
2. The player’s performance over the totality of his NHL career
3. The player’s achievements relative to those who were drafted No. 2 and 3
No impact on his team? If it weren't for Lindros, Quebec wouldn't have moved to Colorado and won two cups!Chris Phillips at 25 stands out like a sore thumb. That doesn't mean he was bad but many of those defensemen below him were/are higher impact defenders.
With these rando criteria, Lindros should be dropped way down the list: no impact on the team that drafted him, shortened career, lesser career than Scott Niedermeyer.
Sorry, this is just laughable in so many different ways. Its amazing how some people think that PPG during the 80s is the same as PPG over the past couple decades. I guess that means Pat Boutette, who had a couple PPG seasons makes the grade as well, right? Doug Gilmour played 25+ minutes a game. Clark is amazingly overrated as an actual impact player on the leafs. The biggest impact he made was getting us the highest scoring Swedish player of all time.
All lists are subjective and I can live with a few abnormalities. Auston Matthews is just about right, he's already shaken our foundations, and will be much higher if the trend continues. He could be the best American forward of all time. That said, Kane and Modano are both ranked high. Thornton should be waayyyyyy higher. I'd put him above Vinny. The fact that he didn't stick with Boston is no excuse for ranking him so low. There aren't many players that can match Thornton's vision at his peak. Clark over Sundin is a joke. Everybody is high on Fleury right now, way too high. To put him above Lindros, Sundin etc. is laughable. Especially Lindros. Injury free Lindros would dwarf most on this list.
Sundin to impact is like a vending machine to customer service. He flopped the product out. At any point, one could of come out with a dolly, haul him away and replace him with someone else that could do the job and you'd lose nothing.
LOL @ Clarke above Sundin
Did you read the title of the list?There is a lot wrong with that list but the coup de gras was Daigle being on that list. I know he was a first overall but seriously?
It was an official NHL thing.Ah Ok, if that wasn't done by TSN, who was it? (not that I really care).
I wasn't saying anything close to that, I fully expect McDavid to be at the top of the list soon. He's an incredible player and probably a top 3-4 player on that list already in terms of skill.
But Perrault, Modano, Hawerchuk, Thornton all have 1300+ points and hardware of their own, and Lindros had an incredible (tho short) career as well. Kinda hard to say since I don't know what they're basing it on because I'm at work, and can't watch the video -- I just don't see the logic in having him above these players yet have Hischier, and Matthews where they are, doesn't add up.
Just to clarify, I don't have a problem with McDavid being that high -- I'd have him higher.. My problem is that it seems like they're basing it on what the players have accomplished throughout their careers, and not based on skill -- yet have McDavid above some HHOF players. Just seems like it's all over the place.
So you think he should be on the list? He should not have been a 1st overall pick periodDid you read the title of the list?
I mean, seriously....
So you did read the title. You just don't understand it.So you think he should be on the list? He should not have been a 1st overall pick period
So you did read my first post. You just didn't understand it.So you did read the title. You just don't understand it.
Got it.
Good one.So you did read my first post. You just didn't understand it.
Got it.
The point was to generate conversation.Kind of a pointless list considering he's only 20 years old whereas others are in the Hall of Fame already.