Atlantic division teams leading 3 of 4 current divisions

GirardSpinorama

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Hahhahhahh delusional.

Life for sure is rough when majority of the teams are rebuilding teams

Sorry but it is true. There is not a single good team in the north division. If it wasn't for the pandemic and the need to put Canadian teams together, all of those teams would be near the mid to bottom of their divisions again.
 

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It’s funny how everyone overrated that other division again. The Metro has been continually getting hyped for several years and in general has underperformed expectations. The problem I think is that there’s a ton of bad defenses in there. It’s basically Boston, NYI....a big thick ass layer of bricks and dirt, then Philly, Washington, Pens and everyone else
 

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Sorry but it is true. There is not a single good team in the north division. If it wasn't for the pandemic and the need to put Canadian teams together, all of those teams would be near the mid to bottom of their divisions again.

S'funny because even with their injury riddled season last year Toronto has the 8th best point % and 6th most ROW in the entire league the previous 3 seasons playing regular schedules. If they're not good, what is Colorado?
 
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Few should argue with that.

But are the Leafs better than Boston, Wash, Philly and Pitt....all who had more pts than the Leafs last year and all who have to play each other in the same division this year.

You mean last year with the Babcock drama and all the injuries? that’s your sample:laugh:. That has about as much weight as a play-in tourney after months off.

Yes, they are as good as Boston and Washington, and better than the other two. Their record since their rebuild places them 8th league wide in pts% and they hold a winning record over each of those team over the same timeframe. On top of that each of the teams you listed is weaker this year, so why exactly are we supposed to be cowering in fear now when we’ve fared well when they were stronger.
 
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Cotton

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Sorry but it is true. There is not a single good team in the north division. If it wasn't for the pandemic and the need to put Canadian teams together, all of those teams would be near the mid to bottom of their divisions again.

You sound super insecure, it’s understandable as your division is in actuality the weakest and you want to try and deflect that - a bunch of western teams did that for years, chest thumping over Chicago and LA when their own teams did squat. Just look at the fact that Minnesota with zero Center depth has more points than Colorado. And with all the lottery teams you still aren’t guaranteed the playoffs. That’s hella weak.

Would gladly switch Divisions, Vegas looks to be the only real contender there and their record against us since joining the league is 1-4.
 
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Comparing divisions in a hard cap league where the best team vs the worst team is maybe a 70% win odds on a given night 20 games into a season is laughable.
 

GirardSpinorama

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You sound super insecure, it’s understandable as your division is in actuality the weakest and you want to try and deflect that - a bunch of western teams did that for years, chest thumping over Chicago and LA when their own teams did squat. Just look at the fact that Minnesota with zero Center depth has more points than Colorado. And with all the lottery teams you still aren’t guaranteed the playoffs. That’s hella weak.

Would gladly switch Divisions, Vegas looks to be the only real contender there and their record against us since joining the league is 1-4.

See that's just it. You actually consider vegas a contender. None of the teams in the north is a contender and playing against themselves is not going to change that.
 

nbwingsfan

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"Lucky". We can handle the Avs all day. I'm sure the Panthers can too. Your division is a bigger joke than the North and that says something. The fact that the Avs are 11-6-1 in that putrid division is actually pretty embarrassing. Atleast Vegas is handling their business.
How exactly do you know you can "handle" the Aves without actually ever playing them? If we're basing it off of just last season we know the Aves were the much better team than the Leafs
 

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See that's just it. You actually consider vegas a contender. None of the teams in the north is a contender and playing against themselves is not going to change that.
Every division has a contender. Stop being delusional.
Vancouver took out the defending champs last year and they are getting smacked around in this division. Leafs are 100% a contender.
 
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X66

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We are another level better than the leafs. Don't kid yourself.

With Babcock, sure, with Keefe, no chance.

They're in the same tier I'd say, which is cup contending team.

Leafs have the 2nd best record in the entire NHL since Keefe took over, and the team has improved in every area.

Matthews is at that same age where MacKinnon finally hit that next level, AND he's arguably better than him now.
 

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As a Leafs fan, it feels f***ing fantastic to not have to be in the Bruins' and Bolts' shadows. The Leafs have had a pretty damn good team for the past 3 seasons now but we've never been able to beat the 2 big dogs. The Leafs absolutely crushing the North isn't really a surprise to anyone that has paid attention to the Atlantic division the last few years.

Bruins and Bolts are still the class of the NHL and should comfortably lead their divisions. The Panthers are an absolute juggernaut of a team that much like the Leafs got buried in the division because of the log jam above them. The rest of that division was terrible though, including the Habs who are pure pretenders. If the Panthers were in the Pacific division right now, I have zero doubts in my mind that they would be at the top above the Golden Knights and Avs. Both those teams are fantastic but the Panthers pretty much have equally as good an offense, better defense, and equally as good goaltending with Dreidger.

I felt we were pretty f***ing garbage last season relative to expectations if I'm being honest. I don't think that was just because of the division we played in.
 

ToDavid

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We are another level better than the leafs. Don't kid yourself.

Lol, the Avs have accomplished as much as the Leafs have recently and somehow they've been dubbed the next great dynasty.

Pretty disappointing start for a team on another level.
 

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We are another level better than the leafs. Don't kid yourself.

Lol... ok

The leafs aren’t the epitome of success, but the Avs have been hailed the next best thing despite having no where near the results to warrant it.

Probably time to get off your high horse, until your team, like mine, proves otherwise.
 
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GirardSpinorama

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Lol, the Avs have accomplished as much as the Leafs have recently and somehow they've been dubbed the next great dynasty.

Pretty disappointing start for a team on another level.

The leafs haven't even won a playoff round.
 

GirardSpinorama

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Lol, the Avs have accomplished as much as the Leafs have recently and somehow they've been dubbed the next great dynasty.

Pretty disappointing start for a team on another level.

Not really. The leafs haven't won a playoff round. They didn't suddenly become a contender due to 20 odd games against the same average to bad teams.

If they were playing interdivision games or playing in a tougher division, you can make an argument. But right now, they are only contenders in the minds of their own fans and maybe fans of the Canadian teams.
 

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Not really. The leafs haven't won a playoff round. They didn't suddenly become a contender due to 20 odd games against the same average to bad teams.
So the Avs beat the Coyotes and that puts them on another level than the Leafs? Avs are a good team my dude, but acting like winning in the first round twice is a monumental achievement is exactly the kind of thing that you would roast us for if we were doing it.
 
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ToDavid

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Not really. The leafs haven't won a playoff round. They didn't suddenly become a contender due to 20 odd games against the same average to bad teams.

If they were playing interdivision games or playing in a tougher division, you can make an argument. But right now, they are only contenders in the minds of their own fans and maybe fans of the Canadian teams.

You don’t get any trophies for losing in the second round instead of the first.
 

GirardSpinorama

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So the Avs beat the Coyotes and that puts them on another level than the Leafs? Avs are a good team my dude, but acting like winning in the first round twice is a monumental achievement is exactly the kind of thing that you would roast us for if we were doing it.

It's not a monumental achievement but the leafs haven't made in past the first round since 2003-2004, so it'd be pretty monumental for you. We don't know how you would act, have to accomplish it first.
 

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Should of tossed a team in the west to see if the Atlantic could run the table.

Sorry but it is true. There is not a single good team in the north division. If it wasn't for the pandemic and the need to put Canadian teams together, all of those teams would be near the mid to bottom of their divisions again.
Edmonton or the Jets would prob be 1st in your division.
 

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