ATD2019 - Draft Thread I

[TheDevilMadeMe]

Swamp Devils pick the man often called the 2nd best player in PCHA history, the man who probably taught Frank Nighbor the hook check that Nighbor later perfected.

A man who was a 9-time PCHA / WCHL All-Star (and MVP of the fledging Big 4 league in another season)

Mickey MacKay, C (and rover)

5 x PCHA First Team All-Star (1915, 1917, 1919, 1922, 1923)

3 x PCHA Second Team All-Star (1916, 1918, 1921)

1 x WCHL First Team All-Star (1925)

1 x Big 4 League MVP (1920) via this source
5x Top 5 PCHA Points: 2nd (1915), 2nd (1922), 2nd (1923), 3rd (1924), 5th (1919)

4x Top 5 PCHA Goals: 1st (1915), 1st (1924), 2nd (1923), 5th (1922)

5x Top 5 PCHA Assists: 1st (1922), 2nd (1915), 2nd (1919), 2nd (1923), 4th (1918)

Led team in scoring two times (1915, 1923)
1x Top 5 WCHL Points: 1st (1925)

1x Top 5 WCHL Goals: 1st (1925)

Led team in scoring one time (1925)
1x Top 10 NHL Assists: 8th (1927)
Stanley Cup points: 1st (1918), 3rd (1915)

An offensive genius, he was a clean and gentlemanly player and a fine defensive forward who was often asked to play rover so he could poke-check opposing rushers to frustration.

Some say he was the single biggest hockey influence on the great Frank Nighbor. He was also a very effective poke-checker

Barely 19 years of age, he is a star of stars... He has speed, is a grand stick handler, a great back checker and scorer, and he's got brains, something that average hockey player does not acquire for years after being in the game.

He was perhaps the greatest centre we ever had on the coast. MacKay was a great crowd pleaser. He was clean, splendidly courageous, a happy player with a stylish way of going. He was sensational in making quick breakaways. He was a sure shot alone with the goalie. He could handle his stick and was almost as good a hook-check as Frank Nighbor. He was one of those who helped make pro hockey a great game. He was outstanding in every way

(undrafted coach) will admit, if you press him, that he never saw greater players than Cyclone Taylor and Mickey MacKay.

 

[ResilientBeast]

When I was talking about adding position eligibility I was talking about Mackay

In East rules cup games Mackay more often than not lined up at RW for Vancouver

When the PCHA dropped the rover for 23-24 forward and they had Frank Boucher Mackay seemed to line up fairly often as a "forward" in the starting lineups with Boucher at center

 

[BenchBrawl]

Swamp Devils pick the man often called the 2nd best player in PCHA history, the man who probably taught Frank Nighbor the hook check that Nighbor later perfected.

A man who was a 9-time PCHA / WCHL All-Star (and MVP of the fledging Big 4 league in another season)

Mickey MacKay, C (and rover)

5 x PCHA First Team All-Star (1915, 1917, 1919, 1922, 1923)

3 x PCHA Second Team All-Star (1916, 1918, 1921)

1 x WCHL First Team All-Star (1925)

1 x Big 4 League MVP (1920) via this source
5x Top 5 PCHA Points: 2nd (1915), 2nd (1922), 2nd (1923), 3rd (1924), 5th (1919)

4x Top 5 PCHA Goals: 1st (1915), 1st (1924), 2nd (1923), 5th (1922)

5x Top 5 PCHA Assists: 1st (1922), 2nd (1915), 2nd (1919), 2nd (1923), 4th (1918)

Led team in scoring two times (1915, 1923)
1x Top 5 WCHL Points: 1st (1925)

1x Top 5 WCHL Goals: 1st (1925)

Led team in scoring one time (1925)
1x Top 10 NHL Assists: 8th (1927)
Stanley Cup points: 1st (1918), 3rd (1915)

Excellent pick.If I wanted his skillset I would've taken him instead of Fredrickson, but I wanted more size and speed.

He fits in nicely in your lineup

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

When I was talking about adding position eligibility I was talking about Mackay

In East rules cup games Mackay more often than not lined up at RW for Vancouver

When the PCHA dropped the rover for 23-24 forward and they had Frank Boucher Mackay seemed to line up fairly often as a "forward" in the starting lineups with Boucher at center

When I first started playing ATD, MacKay was listed as C/RW. But we've dropped the /RW over the last few drafts.

Are you saying we were right back then all along?

 

[ResilientBeast]

When I first started playing ATD, MacKay was listed as C/RW. But we've dropped the /RW over the last few drafts.

Are you saying we were right back then all along?

I think so, later this evening I can dump some references if necessary. But he certainly played a good amount of RW

 

[The Macho King]

Ugh... wanted Lehtinen or Gainey.

I'll finish out my top 6 with Gordie Drillon.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

I totally forgot about Drillon when I called Balderus the best offensive winger on the board, since I scratched Drillon off my list rounds ago, as he'd be a crap fit with either of my top centers.

Good pick now obviously if he fits your team

 

[ImporterExporter]

I totally forgot about Drillon when I called Balderus the best offensive winger on the board, since I scratched Drillon off my list rounds ago, as he'd be a crap fit with either of my top centers.

Good pick now obviously if he fits your team

Remember when I asked you if Helmuts was really the best?

 

[ImporterExporter]

Let's add more defensive acumen to the F group. Like that he can play across the F line.

Walker "The Silver Mountain Ranger", Jack, F

 

[Hawkey Town 18]

Let's add more defensive acumen to the F group. Like that he can play across the F line.

Walker "The Silver Mountain Ranger", Jack, F

Do we know how much RW he played? I was looking at Walker when I took Provost but wasn’t sure.

 

[ImporterExporter]

Do we know how much RW he played? I was looking at Walker when I took Provost but wasn’t sure.

Less the other 2 as far as I know. But I'm going to try and dig up what I can in the next few weeks. But Provost is a good pre consolidation comparison. There is a guy post expansion yet to be drafted I sort of put into that category, although a touch behind the 2 above.

 

[King Forsberg]

I’m sitting here deciding between a lot of forwards. I’ll decide to find a goalie to bail out Jagr and Esposito.

Jiri Holecek, G

 

[tony d]

I'm out of town for most of the day tomorrow. I figure to have 2 picks over the period I'm gone, anyone want to take a list?

 

[Elvis P]

I'm out of town for most of the day tomorrow. I figure to have 2 picks over the period I'm gone, anyone want to take a list?

Ok. I don't pick for 30 picks.

 

[tony d]

Sent.

 

[Dreakmur]

Swamp Devils pick the man often called the 2nd best player in PCHA history, the man who probably taught Frank Nighbor the hook check that Nighbor later perfected.

A man who was a 9-time PCHA / WCHL All-Star (and MVP of the fledging Big 4 league in another season)

Mickey MacKay, C (and rover)

5 x PCHA First Team All-Star (1915, 1917, 1919, 1922, 1923)

3 x PCHA Second Team All-Star (1916, 1918, 1921)

1 x WCHL First Team All-Star (1925)

1 x Big 4 League MVP (1920) via this source
5x Top 5 PCHA Points: 2nd (1915), 2nd (1922), 2nd (1923), 3rd (1924), 5th (1919)

4x Top 5 PCHA Goals: 1st (1915), 1st (1924), 2nd (1923), 5th (1922)

5x Top 5 PCHA Assists: 1st (1922), 2nd (1915), 2nd (1919), 2nd (1923), 4th (1918)

Led team in scoring two times (1915, 1923)
1x Top 5 WCHL Points: 1st (1925)

1x Top 5 WCHL Goals: 1st (1925)

Led team in scoring one time (1925)
1x Top 10 NHL Assists: 8th (1927)
Stanley Cup points: 1st (1918), 3rd (1915)

Excellent 2-way player. I considered him when I took Kopitar.

 

[Elvis P]

Thanks, will send it to you.

You're welcome. Got it. Will post all bio included.

 

[papershoes]

ugh... torn between three players here. hopefully one of them remains until my next pick.

Kenora selects:

JACQUES LEMAIRE (C)

 

[Namba 17]

Denis Savard

 

[Dreakmur]

ugh... torn between three players here. hopefully one of them remains until my next pick.

Kenora selects:

JACQUES LEMAIRE (C)

Of all the guys I considered when I took Kopitar, this guy was probably the toughest to pass on. I know he gets knocked for being a beneficiary of Guy Lafleur, but I don't think they even played together until the they were put together midway through the 1977 season.

 

[Dreakmur]

I'll take Bob Pulford !

 

[BenchBrawl]

Of all the guys I considered when I took Kopitar, this guy was probably the toughest to pass on. I know he gets knocked for being a beneficiary of Guy Lafleur, but I don't think they even played together until the they were put together midway through the 1977 season.

I think Lemaire has gotten underrated.He was better defensively than given credit for, and his contribution to Lafleur's career are underappreciated.He was also part of the Cournoyer generation who peaked in the Orr years.

 

[BenchBrawl]

I'll take Bob Pulford !

This is disappointing...

 

[Johnny Engine]

I'm here, ready to pick. What an awkward window of time for a run of quick picks!

 

[Johnny Engine]

Glenn Anderson