Prospect Info: At 8th Overall the Kings Select Brandt Clarke

[King'sPawn]

I was aware of the outrageous (but amusing) Kaliyev birther conspiracy "theory" and I had heard the "doesn't play defense/skate hard/win board battles/pass the puck" stuff before as well but had never heard even the faintest whisper of the other subject

That's very very strange


this industry is a weird one and the number of people you can encounter at every level that will profess to know what they're talking about because they talked to someone else that professed to know what they're talking about is kind of amazing....

Only marginally related but when I see "prospect rankings" that relies on "conversations" with "scouts" or "industry insiders" I frequently find myself remembering that just because someone is a scout or insider or well placed source.... doesn't mean they have any idea what they're talking about.


Food for thought.

True. We saw it with Akim Aliu who reportedly had an "attitude problem" as he was rising in the professional ranks, only to have it turn out he was subjected to a racist asshole of a coach.

Biases and misinformation comes from even the closest of sources.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Let's also never forget that Damien Cox is a stupid f***ing prick.

 

[DoktorJeep]

Kaliyev being 24 yo would be great news. The coach would give him more minutes and learn to pronounce his name correctly.

 

[mysterman2]

I hope Turcotte makes it because he will be the glue guy.

for sure.....hes probably the most likable player since Robitaille.

 

[Peter James Bond II]

Who gives a shit if he is on the spectrum? Who cares what Drew’s home life consists of? I sure as hell don’t give a shit what any of their favorite clothing companies are! Too much information.

My older son is high functioning autistic and he's a pretty strong young man. He was not coordinated to play most sports well, but was good at tae kwon do...but his movements were not fluid. He can do a backflip and I can't. I haven't tried and never will at this point. If Arty is on the spectrum, it's very mild.

Alex Honnold did the most incredible human feat (in human history) when he free solo'd, 3,000 foot El Capitan.
I've watched it about 5 times and still cannot believe it. He seems to be on the spectrum.

 

[Chazz Reinhold]

Clarke once again passed over for this tournament. I wonder what Yannetti thinks this time if this was his reaction last time:

 

[cyclones22]

It's quite obvious that Hockey Canada leadership doesn't like the kid. Makes it even easier to root against Team Canada.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

To be fair Hunt --> Del Mastro is more of a stylistic comparison

But I'm not making excuses for them because it's just an ongoing joke

 

[Maynard]

I know everyone thinks Team Canada are big clueless jerks that keep kids off the team because of grudges, but I doubt they’ve all decided to conspire against young Brandt. Makes me wonder if there’s some other problem with him.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I know everyone thinks Team Canada are big clueless jerks that keep kids off the team because of grudges, but I doubt they’ve all decided to conspire against young Brandt. Makes me wonder if there’s some other problem with him.

Have you seen the issues afflicting the whole team canada organization

I would never take this as an indictment of one's character

 

[Sol]

Herby can correct me if I'm wrong, but mostly I just heard this type of nasty stuff about him on the Internet (here, Reddit, or other forums), but people would say they heard it from others. No reputable scouting service would post anything like that though.

A post about his "real age". It's mostly a joke but cites the rampant speculation:


There is no specific, word-for-word, "on the spectrum" speculation. But people alluded to different personality issues because he was socially awkward, particularly in interviews. Damien Cox, cited in the Reddit post above, also suggested he's not a good person as the reason he fell, because "teams know."

Please know I'm not saying it's credible or I believe it. Just that the cruelty of the Internet contributing to irresponsible speculation.

You can find posts about him being on the spectrum on HF boards from a decent amount of posts in 2019. On the draft section.

 

[Sol]

Clarke once again passed over for this tournament. I wonder what Yannetti thinks this time if this was his reaction last time:

@All The Kings Men is there anything you know about this bizarre situation between Clarke and Canada ???

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

@All The Kings Men is there anything you know about this bizarre situation between Clarke and Canada ???

Check out that interview with Yannetti, he's...less than thrilled haha.

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

Hockey Canada is weird. Remember, Markus Phillips made their prestigious roster and then looked like he had no idea how to play hockey while in Ontario. One of the worst defensemen I've ever seen

 

[SaltyElkHunter]

My older son is high functioning autistic and he's a pretty strong young man. He was not coordinated to play most sports well, but was good at tae kwon do...but his movements were not fluid. He can do a backflip and I can't. I haven't tried and never will at this point. If Arty is on the spectrum, it's very mild.

Alex Honnold did the most incredible human feat (in human history) when he free solo'd, 3,000 foot El Capitan.
I've watched it about 5 times and still cannot believe it. He seems to be on the spectrum.

I wasn’t shitting on Arty whatsoever homie. All I’m saying is I don’t think we really need to know all of the private details of their lives. That’s awesome your son is super into sports and that he can do backflips.

 

[RocketKing]

I was aware of the outrageous (but amusing) Kaliyev birther conspiracy "theory" and I had heard the "doesn't play defense/skate hard/win board battles/pass the puck" stuff before as well but had never heard even the faintest whisper of the other subject

That's very very strange


this industry is a weird one and the number of people you can encounter at every level that will profess to know what they're talking about because they talked to someone else that professed to know what they're talking about is kind of amazing....

Only marginally related but when I see "prospect rankings" that relies on "conversations" with "scouts" or "industry insiders" I frequently find myself remembering that just because someone is a scout or insider or well placed source.... doesn't mean they have any idea what they're talking about.


Food for thought.

My son is a high functioning autistic kid.
If AK is in this category I would not say he can’t make it or would not be a great player. If he has this type of difference then he might take more time to learn what he needs to be successful. Kids like this can be delayed learners, which in the case of AK would be amazing because he’s already in LA playing an NHL role. For kids on the spectrum it takes them more time than others to learn and mature. One big thing that they exhibit is a big lack awareness of how he come across to others. Kids like this can also be able to have a hyper focus on things that they are really passionate about. So they may become exceptionally skilled on those specific things. On an interpersonal basis kids in this category can and will seem aloof, because they don’t really process these aspects of life but they can be very capable and even elite in those areas that really stimulates their mind. To me it would be an incredible compliment to AK as well as the Kings if he does really become a true top 6 fwd and he is on the spectrum.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I wasn’t shitting on Arty whatsoever homie. All I’m saying is I don’t think we really need to know all of the private details of their lives. That’s awesome your son is super into sports and that he can do backflips.

I don't think anyone disagrees. I think the point was WHY would a kid like that drop and all the supporting theories, and frankly, it unfortunately makes sense that the 'gud ol boys' culture in hockey would see a kid like Arty as somehow problematic upon interview.

 

[Statto]

provided health, I don't see any way he's not an NHLer. It's his ultimate ceiling we disagree on. But the dude has every tool to be at least a third liner right this minute. But even in that role he could be a great leader.

Couldn’t agree more. It’s definitely his health that is the route of my concern, although I’m still fairly certain he will battle through it and become an important part of the team.

 

[cyclones22]

It was only an eight-game stretch, but I seem to remember that even though Turcotte didn't get on the score sheet, he was driving play and creating high danger chances. He could have scored at least a couple of goals but he was robbed at the doorstep number of times. All from the fourth line.

 

[Surf Nutz]

I know everyone thinks Team Canada are big clueless jerks that keep kids off the team because of grudges, but I doubt they’ve all decided to conspire against young Brandt. Makes me wonder if there’s some other problem with him.

His defensive game is not there yet. Because obviously its not his offensive prowess.

 

[kingsfan28]

This reeks of payback and grudges towards someone in the Kings org. The good old boys club is alive and well.

 

[Ghetty Green]

I hope Turcotte makes it because he will be the glue guy.

Akil could supplant him

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

His defensive game is not there yet. Because obviously its not his offensive prowess.

His defensive game is good. This is just a meme at this point.

It's not his strongest point but it in no way should keep him off that team.

The criticisms of him at camp basically boiled down to "well this player's peak is a 6 and he's playing at a 5. Clarke's peak is a 9 but he's ONLY playing at a 7. Take player A."

This isn't just us being homers, almost everyone is all over them for it.

 

[Statto]

Akil could supplant him

I want both there. I’m still confident on Thomas after his play-off showing, finding his game after his double shoulder surgery. He’s on my list of potential surprises at training camp.

 

[Statto]

It was only an eight-game stretch, but I seem to remember that even though Turcotte didn't get on the score sheet, he was driving play and creating high danger chances. He could have scored at least a couple of goals but he was robbed at the doorstep number of times. All from the fourth line.

He player 2/3 of his minutes with a very off form Dustin Brown and mostly played with Kupari who was also snake bitten as the time (IIRC there were a couple of nice ‘assists’ that were not converted).