Colt.45Orr
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Grzelcyk, it is always assumed, will be protected over Clifton. Grizz Vs. Lauzon discussions etc but Clifton never seems to enter the discussion too much (other than that Seattle might take Clifton) but when you start to run some of the numbers *including 2 really important ones* it comes out heavily in favour of "Cliffy Hockey"
IMPORTANT NUMBER #1:
Grzelcyk: 3.67m Cap hit
Clifton: 1m Cap hit
*I'm going off memory, could be off a few bucks but Clifton is an amazing deal. Grizz isn't overpaid, in my opinion, but he sure of hell isn't worth 350% of the cap hit that Clifton gets! We are in a flat cap and that 2.5 or 2.6 goes a long way come UFA season or a trade for a star player that this team needs so bad.
IMPORTANT NUMBER #2:
Grzelcyk: .25 PPG in his career in the playoffs
Clifton: .22 PPG in his career in the playoffs
Clifton plays better in playoffs and Grizz gets smaller (imo). Keep in mind that Grizz is also still getting PP time in the playoffs as well which is also part of the reason why his regular season numbers are better than Clifton (13 more points this year). Clifton gets no PP time and Grizz was 1st PP --getting even 45 more seconds a game than McAvoy (shameful). We have the talent to run 4 forwards on both PPs and McAvoy should take the 1st PP unit over, so Gryz is very replaceable on the 2nd unit.
IMPORTANT NUMBER #3:
Grzelcyk: 5'9 174pds
Clifton: 5'11 195pds
Grizz is waaaaaaay too small if he doesn't bring elite skills across the board (he doesn't.... he's good, but not enough). Grizz is often roadkill in the playoffs, whereas Clifton is an absolute playoff beast. Not even comparable
Grzelcyk: 1.5 hits / 60
Clifton: 8 hits / 60 (team leading)
I understand that lots of other numbers will come out in favour of Grizz, buuuuut playoffs is all I care about. Grizz gets lots of time with the top line and one of the best Dmen in the game whereas Cliffy had much lesser partners this year. To me, if Clifton could play LHD with McAvoy he would look amazing. Just an opinion.
To me (/ everyone) we need an upgrade on the LD side and $2,670,000 saved from going with Cliffy over Grizz could go a long way.
Grizz Vs. Clifton + (cap space to help sign/trade for ___________ ) and it really isn't close.
IMPORTANT NUMBER #1:
Grzelcyk: 3.67m Cap hit
Clifton: 1m Cap hit
*I'm going off memory, could be off a few bucks but Clifton is an amazing deal. Grizz isn't overpaid, in my opinion, but he sure of hell isn't worth 350% of the cap hit that Clifton gets! We are in a flat cap and that 2.5 or 2.6 goes a long way come UFA season or a trade for a star player that this team needs so bad.
IMPORTANT NUMBER #2:
Grzelcyk: .25 PPG in his career in the playoffs
Clifton: .22 PPG in his career in the playoffs
Clifton plays better in playoffs and Grizz gets smaller (imo). Keep in mind that Grizz is also still getting PP time in the playoffs as well which is also part of the reason why his regular season numbers are better than Clifton (13 more points this year). Clifton gets no PP time and Grizz was 1st PP --getting even 45 more seconds a game than McAvoy (shameful). We have the talent to run 4 forwards on both PPs and McAvoy should take the 1st PP unit over, so Gryz is very replaceable on the 2nd unit.
IMPORTANT NUMBER #3:
Grzelcyk: 5'9 174pds
Clifton: 5'11 195pds
Grizz is waaaaaaay too small if he doesn't bring elite skills across the board (he doesn't.... he's good, but not enough). Grizz is often roadkill in the playoffs, whereas Clifton is an absolute playoff beast. Not even comparable
Grzelcyk: 1.5 hits / 60
Clifton: 8 hits / 60 (team leading)
I understand that lots of other numbers will come out in favour of Grizz, buuuuut playoffs is all I care about. Grizz gets lots of time with the top line and one of the best Dmen in the game whereas Cliffy had much lesser partners this year. To me, if Clifton could play LHD with McAvoy he would look amazing. Just an opinion.
To me (/ everyone) we need an upgrade on the LD side and $2,670,000 saved from going with Cliffy over Grizz could go a long way.
Grizz Vs. Clifton + (cap space to help sign/trade for ___________ ) and it really isn't close.