News Article: Artemi Panarin speaks on potential salary cuts

[Hockeyfan2390]

https://detroitsportsnation.com/art...qdoxsD_Nv10Un3jB66is4LZlV2STLWa82RVzU6GmKi-Xs

He was then told the cuts could potentially reach upwards of 40-60%.

“Ahh. I think we will have less. If 40 to 60 percent, then why am I doing this at all? Then I will probably skip the next year.”

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[Adam Fox Time]

No sympathy for the owners here. They are much wealthier than the players, and in the Rangers' case they are especially lucrative. They should pay players their full salaries next season.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

40-60% is ridiculous.

 

[aufheben]

Sounds like bullshit.

 

[Doctyl]

Does the NHLPA have to agree to these cuts? No way they’re letting them take 60% off

 

[Leetch3]

no clue where they are coming up with any of this...players will get killed in escrow for this year, not next year. and lower revenue due to shutdown could kill the cap next year, which will screw free agents and force buyouts but contracts are guaranteed. next year the revenue would go back to normal and far exceed the cap so the players wouldn't lose anything to escrow. I don't understand how there is a single scenario where panarin doesn't get his full salary

 

[FoxyClean]

Reading that quote made me sick to my stomach. Hope it's not true. Seems like exactly the kind of thing that would happen to the Rangers.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

He made 11 million dollars this year to play a children’s game. Meanwhile, millions are unemployed and doctors and nurses don’t make anywhere near what he does in a month let alone a year. Shut the f*** up and play.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

He made 11 million dollars this year to play a children’s game. Meanwhile, millions are unemployed and doctors and nurses don’t make anywhere near what he does in a month let alone a year. Shut the f*** up and play.

After escrow, agent fees, taxes etc, it's 6m

 

[Hire Sather]

No sympathy for the owners here. They are much wealthier than the players, and in the Rangers' case they are especially lucrative. They should pay players their full salaries next season.

No sympathy for either side. Work it out.

Gaurentee the NHL will be the only league where this will be an issue.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

This thread has been a lot of fun.

 

[surixon]

No sympathy for either side. Work it out.

Gaurentee the NHL will be the only league where this will be an issue.

How so? Most north American leagues have player salaries tied to league revenue.

NBA players will be hurting just as much as will NFL players if they can't start on time.

 

[Good Intentions]

Absolutely NOTHING to see here. Jesus Christ.

 

[nyr2k2]

That’s still 6 million more Thant the 6.5 million unemployed people in the US are making right now. Even if it was 500,000 it’s still be more than most make. Sorry, I don’t have any pity for pro athletes.

I work for an organization that advocates on behalf of workers in a variety of manual labor-focused industries who literally can't live on the salaries they earn, and who are abused and taken advantage of at every turn. It's what I've done my whole adult life. To me, any time a worker is screwed out of something that should rightfully be theirs, it's f***ed up. The principle of taking advantage of the labor, is terrible. I don't know why you need to be so hostile and insulting.

That said, I don't know that there's really anything to this story.

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Lafreniere, Alexis

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192

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170

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A player will be considered a prospect until he meets the following criteria:
If a prospect is a skater (forward, defenseman) and has played in 65 NHL games or more before the completion of the season of his 24th birthday; or, if a goaltender has played in 45 NHL games before the completion of the season of his 24th birthday, that player will be considered graduated to the NHL. Conversely, if a player completes the season of his 24th birthday without passing those milestones, then that player will no longer be considered a prospect by Hockey’s Future, regardless of the player’s status with his NHL club.

An NCAA player who signs his first contract at or above the age of 22 has three years to meet the above criteria (65/45), while those NCAA players that turn pro under the age of 22 will be subjected to the criteria above.

European players who sign their first NHL contract at or above the age of 22 have three seasons from the time they sign that contract to meet the above criteria. Those European players below the age of 22 that have signed a NHL contract will be subjected to the criteria in section one.

NOTE: These are general guidelines and should be followed the majority of the time but certain players may still be listed as prospects if circumstances warrant.

Source: Hockey's Future - NHL Prospect Criteria

 

[surixon]

I work for an organization that advocates on behalf of workers in a variety of manual labor-focused industries who literally can't live on the salaries they earn, and who are abused and taken advantage of at every turn. It's what I've done my whole adult life. To me, any time a worker is screwed out of something that should rightfully be theirs, it's f***ed up. The principle of taking advantage of the labor, is terrible. I don't know why you need to be so hostile and insulting.

That said, I don't know that there's really anything to this story.

There isn't any taking advantage of going on here. The players contract through the CBA states 50% of league revenue. If league revenues plunge, players share of the pie goes down accordingly.

This isn't an employer unilaterally imposing wage cuts on their employees. This is the players getting exactly what their contract states they are getting.

 

[nyr2k2]

There isn't any taking advantage of going on here. The players contract through the CBA states 50% of league revenue. If league revenues plunge, players share of the pie goes down accordingly.

This isn't an employer unilaterally imposing wage cuts on their employees. This is the players getting exactly what their contract states they are getting.

Right, and I wouldn't expect anything unilateral given the fact that there's a CBA that governs all of this.

I was more taken aback by the other poster's hostility than anything.

 

[NYRFAN218]

I asked a Russian friend of mine and he said he was joking. Maybe someone else could confirm.

 

[nyr2k2]

I asked a Russian friend of mine and he said he was joking. Maybe someone else could confirm.

If you run the article through Google Translate, it sure sounds like he wasn't being at all serious.

Панарин о зарплате: «Если урежут на 40-60%, пожалуй, пропущу следующий год»

 

[The Crypto Guy]

https://nypost.com/2020/04/10/artem...angers-exit-if-nhl-cuts-pay-over-coronavirus/

“Of course I was kidding,” Panarin said in a text to a Rangers executive that was shared with The Post. “I was laughing.”

Shut. This. Thread. Down.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

If you run the article through Google Translate, it sure sounds like he wasn't being at all serious.

Панарин о зарплате: «Если урежут на 40-60%, пожалуй, пропущу следующий год»

And the 40-60% was from a different league. He sounded like he was kidding. Let's get off our ledges and to that one fella, our high horses too.

 

[FoxyClean]

https://nypost.com/2020/04/10/artem...angers-exit-if-nhl-cuts-pay-over-coronavirus/



Shut. This. Thread. Down.

I mean if it was serious enough for the organization to immediately contact him about it and the Post to publish an article about it, it was serious enough to have a thread about it.

Glad he was joking though...hopefully.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

I mean if it was serious enough for the organization to immediately contact him about it and the Post to publish an article about it, it was serious enough to have a thread about it.

Glad he was joking though...hopefully.

It was only serious because people went crazy and mis took what he said. It was never really serious.

 

[egelband]

God one of the stupids arguments people use when talking about athletes salaries.

In general, I agree. But in this case, it’s not the time for a millionaire to be playing the victim.

 

[Machinehead]

He made 11 million dollars this year to play a children’s game. Meanwhile, millions are unemployed and doctors and nurses don’t make anywhere near what he does in a month let alone a year. Shut the f*** up and play.

And how much did the owners make this year to write checks and make bad music?

 

[SA16]

He made 11 million dollars this year to play a children’s game. Meanwhile, millions are unemployed and doctors and nurses don’t make anywhere near what he does in a month let alone a year. Shut the f*** up and play.

Yes he “made” 11 million dollars because people want to pay money to watch him play. If people wanted to pay to sit in a stadium and watch doctors and nurses perform surgeries then they too could have similar salaries.

this whole argument that comes up is probably the absolute stupidest ones around and just shows a total lack of understanding about how salaries work. People get paid based on how difficult they are to replace and how much revenue they help bring in. It’s why all the “essential” grocery store workers don’t make more money. If they quit ok the store will just hire someone else who can do the exact same thing with a day of training.