Around the NHL - Episode XLVI

[Beville]

Or...

Scrap the lottery because it’s ridiculous.

31st drafts 1st
30th drafts 2nd
29th drafts 3rd

Etc

 

[dumbdick]

"We offered them competitive offers"

I don't know why, but I could watch this gif for the rest of my natural life and die a happy man

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

 

[otown]

Draft proposal: teams can't have 2 consecutive lottery wins.

 

[Blotto71]

Or...

Scrap the lottery because it’s ridiculous.

31st drafts 1st
30th drafts 2nd
29th drafts 3rd

Etc

I agree. In this day and age where every form of entertainment is competing for dollars, icing an uncompetitive team cannot be the goal of a successful business. To many fickle fans that will just move on and spend dollars elsewhere.

 

[aragorn]

How many times can the NHL screw up the draft especially when Ottawa has been in line to draft a high pick? A team should not be allowed to move up ten spots, that's too much, it should be five spots at the most. Any team in the tenth spot is probably not that bad a team & could be only a couple players away from contending for a playoff spot, winning the lottery would further advance their cause significantly, like the Rangers last draft.

 

[Micklebot]

How many times can the NHL screw up the draft especially when Ottawa has been in line to draft a high pick? A team should not be allowed to move up ten spots, that's too much, it should be five spots at the most. Any team in the tenth spot is probably not that bad a team & could be only a couple players away from contending for a playoff spot, winning the lottery would further advance their cause significantly, like the Rangers last draft.

Problem is if you limit it to moving up 5, the odds of the last place team picking first skyrocket because anyone from 7 to 15 winning is essentially added to the odds of last place winning.

Maybe a solution would be bottom 5 get fully randomized (equal odds at all top picks or weighted idk) this way the incentive to tank is reduced and 6 to 15 have their own lottery where a team can move up to 6th?

Idk there is no one perfect solution, somebody will always have a complaint.

 

[Taluss]

Tkachuk approves

 

[otown]

Or...

Scrap the lottery because it’s ridiculous.

31st drafts 1st
30th drafts 2nd
29th drafts 3rd

Etc

Tanking would be more prevalent under this system, thus the lottery.
Although tanking can still exist with the lottery. Case in point, the Leafs mastered the tank when they got Owen Matthews!
At least with the lottery there is still a chance that tanking won't be rewarded.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

Tkachuk approves

WOW!

He's been eating some bigger burgers. Brute force attack.

 

[Micklebot]

Tkachuk approves

Wth Lazar...

 

[Big Muddy]

New split TV deal which means more money for Melnyk on top of that expansion fee...

True. Good observation.

 

[cudi]

On todays episode of: lets torture ourselves and check at how good Mark Stone still is.

 

[Icelevel]

On todays episode of: lets torture ourselves and check at how good Mark Stone still is.

He’s still under rated here and everywhere. One of the very best players.

Sokolov. No pressure buddy.

 

[Micklebot]

New split TV deal which means more money for Melnyk on top of that expansion fee...

So the espn deal is thought to be worth 2-2.25 billion,

Thats roughly 9-10 mil a year, then they have the other half of the split to sell, my guess is it will go for a bit less and we can expect around 16-18 mil combined from the US national deals. That's a significant jump from the approx 6 mil we currently get from NBC.

All told I'd guess we are going from about 46 mil USD in broadcast rights to maybe 56-58.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Tkachuk approves

That seems dirty and was pretty dangerous, Laughton almost feel straight on his head.

Good on Lazar for being physical and all but that was a bit too far for my taste.

 

[GCK]

So the espn deal is thought to be worth 2-2.25 billion,

Thats roughly 9-10 mil a year, then they have the other half of the split to sell, my guess is it will go for a bit less and we can expect around 16-18 mil combined from the US national deals. That's a significant jump from the approx 6 mil we currently get from NBC.

All told I'd guess we are going from about 46 mil USD in broadcast rights to maybe 56-58.

This really helps revenue starved teams like ours.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Or...

Scrap the lottery because it’s ridiculous.

31st drafts 1st
30th drafts 2nd
29th drafts 3rd

Etc

Way too much worrying about tanking.

I do think there is value in somehow capping how many times a team can get first overall in a row: the Oilers ruined too many good players, imagine if Hall/RNH and, to a lesser extent, McDavid didn't end up there. Outside of a buffoon like Tim Murray, no one wants to actually, actively tank. The Oilers just sucked, they didn't tank.

In fact Tim Murray has made a very strong case as to why actively tanking leads to a lot of problems. I am convinced one of the reasons that franchise is going nowhere was how brazen the tanking for McDavid was.

 

[GCK]

Way too much worrying about tanking.

I do think there is value in somehow capping how many times a team can get first overall in a row: the Oilers ruined too many good players, imagine if Hall/RNH and, to a lesser extent, McDavid didn't end up there. Outside of a buffoon like Tim Murray, no one wants to actually, actively tank. The Oilers just sucked, they didn't tank.

In fact Tim Murray has made a very strong case as to why actively tanking leads to a lot of problems. I am convinced one of the reasons that franchise is going nowhere was how brazen the tanking for McDavid was.

Toronto perfected the tank. One of my favourite hypocrites of all time is Dave Hodge. During the Sabres tank year he would spend some time every week on “The Reporters” show saying how disgusted he was with Buffalo tanking and the NHL needs to change the rules. During the Shannyplan where Toronto didn’t even hide the fact they were tanking, he praised Leaf manage to for tanking.

 

[Senscore]

Reminder: We don't totally suck

 

[Korpse]

Outside of a buffoon like Tim Murray, no one wants to actually, actively tank. The Oilers just sucked, they didn't tank.

You should check out the stuff that was going on for the 2004 draft.

 

[BondraTime]

Strange to hear Stone say that a member of the Sens organization told him he was a bad player and they couldn’t believe they wasted a pick on him at his first development camp. Pretty disrespectful and egregious, hopefully that person isn’t with the team anymore for a few reasons.

 

[JimmySpaetzle]

Strange to hear Stone say that a member of the Sens organization told him he was a bad player and they couldn’t believe they wasted a pick on him at their first development camp. Pretty disrespectful and egregious, hopefully that person isn’t with the team anymore for a few reasons.

Where did he say this?

 

[BondraTime]

Where did he say this?

 

[Samsquanch]

This probably doesnt belong in this thread, and it was from at least 8 years ago (lol)...so maybe old news?

But this could be the funniest thing that Ive ever heard in hockey related pop culture before. And if anyone is curious to hear Bill Burr just utterly murder the Habs with with words that cut like a rusty old knife - then giv'er a listen bud(s).




The whole thing is wonderful but I marked the best part for all ya's - The best description of most Habs fans that Ive ever heard.

Im personally dying right now. And had to share with people who would "get it"). Always been a Bill Burr fan and never heard this before....so here we are!