Around the NHL 5

[cbcwpg]

The NHL needs to make a fake Cup and give that out to the teams to abuse.

 

[None]

The Suter and Parise buyouts push some of their decisions down the road by opening up about 10 million in cap space for next season but the actual savings aren't that much.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was mutually decided on given that it's been rumoured that Parise and Suter have always had the ear of the owner. Parise made it pretty clear he didn't want to be part of a rebuild.

Also helps deciding on the expansion draft since that's 2 NMCs off the books.

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

News out of Trashville, Rinne retiring ........

Hmm, I wonder if he'll get a banner. Oh, wait...

 

[SUX2BU]

The NHL needs to make a fake Cup and give that out to the teams to abuse.

#1 B*lls*it ......

 

[snowkiddin]

That’s a lot of dead cap on the Suter and Parise buyouts, but it should mean the Wild can keep Dumba now.

 

[Neuf]

The NHL needs to make a fake Cup and give that out to the teams to abuse.

Dang. There's literally a guy whose job is to wear white gloves and transport the cup. Can you imagine how he feels seeing that!

 

[TS Quint]

The NHL needs to make a fake Cup and give that out to the teams to abuse.

There is more than one.

 

[Mathil8]

There is more than one.

 

[buggs]

Gee, never would have seen that coming. Nope, not in a million years. Two very good players when acquired on two very long, not so good deals. Here's the end result some might have seen coming.

 

[Mathil8]

Gee, never would have seen that coming. Nope, not in a million years. Two very good players when acquired on two very long, not so good deals. Here's the end result some might have seen coming.

I think everyone knew it would happen eventually with those contracts (Weber one day too), just doubt many expected to see it to Suter this early. Parise is done, but Suter is still serviceable. Likely bought him out because of expansion draft and team dynamics.

But yeah, glad they fixed contract lengths in the CBA because all of those contracts are just a joke haha.

I still enjoy the possibility of Weber retiring before his contract is up and having Nashville pay the cap ramifications

 

[EpicGingy]

The NHL needs to make a fake Cup and give that out to the teams to abuse.

The cup they take is basically the fake cup, the original one was retired a long time ago.

Besides, Stanley has been through worse.

 

[SUX2BU]

Watch them both go to Tampa .......

 

[BigZ65]

The Suter and Parise buyouts push some of their decisions down the road by opening up about 10 million in cap space for next season but the actual savings aren't that much.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was mutually decided on given that it's been rumoured that Parise and Suter have always had the ear of the owner. Parise made it pretty clear he didn't want to be part of a rebuild.

Also helps deciding on the expansion draft since that's 2 NMCs off the books.

They must be hoping the cap doesn’t stay flat into 22-23 because almost the full cap hit is back on the books for that season.

I’m thinking XD considerations almost as key as cap to this decision.

 

[Joe Hallenback]

I do not understand the Parise/Suter buyouts at all

 

[LucianoBorsato]

There are 3 Stanley Cups: The Original bowl from 1892 which is now on display in the HOF in the "vault", the Presentation cup that was made in the 60s that recreated the bowl and first presented in 1970 (this is the one the players get on ice and they have at the parties etc), and the Permanent cup that is used for the display at the HOF when the Presentation cup is out on tour or being dented by drunk hockey players. So there is some history to the cup that is being trashed in Tampa. it's the one the players have been presented for the past 50+ years.

Summarized from Wikipedia for y'all

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Minny clearing space for Eichel

 

[Guardian17]

Not that surprised by this.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

End of an era. Minny saves little cap or money - but saves 2 XD protections.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Gee, never would have seen that coming. Nope, not in a million years. Two very good players when acquired on two very long, not so good deals. Here's the end result some might have seen coming.

Wouldn't have come to this, at least not yet, if not for the XD.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I do not understand the Parise/Suter buyouts at all

Pretty sure it is 97% XD protections.

 

[None]

I do not understand the Parise/Suter buyouts at all

From what I've heard it sounds like Seattle wanted full trade value to leave Dumba unprotected + a decent roster player like Soucy through the expansion draft.
So it either came down to:
- Trade Dumba at a depreciated value knowing that other teams are aware of the pressure that Seattle is having
- Leave Dumba unprotected and Seattle takes him without a doubt (I'd guess that Seattle would then flip Dumba to another team)
- Trade Seattle a top prospect and a 1st and then leave a player like Soucy for them to take in the expansion draft
- Buyout Suter to open a spot to protect Dumba

It kind of feels like one of those moves that you look back on in 3 years when Dumba is playing for another team and you scratch your head wondering what Minnesota was thinking.

They must be hoping the cap doesn’t stay flat into 22-23 because almost the full cap hit is back on the books for that season.

I’m thinking XD considerations almost as key as cap to this decision.

The expansion draft was probably the biggest consideration, I don't think they buy out Suter without the expansion draft looming on the horizon.
I think the cap is guaranteed to be locked for the next 3 seasons, potentially longer depending on how league revenues look in the near future.

 

[ps241]

I do not understand the Parise/Suter buyouts at all

Parise was fading and a bit too close to the owner so I get why Bill made that move. Suter was and XD squeeze play and he does turn 37 in January.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

So ........ Does Suter play next year? Where? And for how much?

 

[snowkiddin]

So ........ Does Suter play next year? Where? And for how much?

I think he’ll play in the NHL for seven figures.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I think he’ll play in the NHL for seven figures.

OK - what is the first figure on the left?