Around the NHL 2015-16, Part II

[SpookyTsuki]

The more I'm told by NYI fans about their young talent and their potentials, the more I'm convinced NYI misses playoffs outright next year. It happens every following year with one of these cinderella bad puck possession teams in the playoffs (12 Predators, 13 Leafs, 14 Avs, 15 Flames).

Depends on this offseason. Is okposo officially gone. And what the return is for hamonic if he is traded

 

[irishock]

Team of destiny. Also the best team in the NHL.

 

[SpookyTsuki]

Lol looks like Washington is done in the 2nd round again #cursed #everyoneknew

 

[LeighDx59]

Chicago and Pittsburgh have an insane amount of puck luck....it always seems to follow them. Here's to hoping Washington finds a way to come back.

 

[Filppula]

Pittsburgh going to win again in a season where they fired their coach? Looking more likely.

 

[irishock]

Pittsburgh going to win again in a season where they fired their coach? Looking more likely.

They'd be coin flip vs SJ, favorites against any other team

 

[Bench]

Hornqvist is everything I wish Abdelkader was.

 

[YpsiWings]

Hornqvist is everything I wish Abdelkader was.

I wish Parks and Rec was as good as The Office. Hornqvist is the best net front guy in the league, you are holding Abby to a lofty standard.

 

[HIFE]

After 7 years in the NHL Hornqvist has arrived. His first years in Nashville I thought he was an ass clown, a poorly coordinated Holmstrom, and chuckled when the Penguins got him. Now? Damn he has blossomed into the scoring threat dreamed of by his fans. Really happy for him he's proved a lot of people wrong.

Weird that Schultz kid seems to be getting along ok now, hmm I wonder why that is?

 

[gretskidoo]

After 7 years in the NHL Hornqvist has arrived. His first years in Nashville I thought he was an ass clown, a poorly coordinated Holmstrom, and chuckled when the Penguins got him. Now? Damn he has blossomed into the scoring threat dreamed of by his fans. Really happy for him he's proved a lot of people wrong.

Weird that Schultz kid seems to be getting along ok now, hmm I wonder why that is?

He's the exact same player he was in Nashville. Only idiots thought it was a bad trade for Pittsburgh.

 

[SpookyTsuki]

Yeah I was confused. Thinking he was putting up 1st line numbers or something

 

[ArGarBarGar]

Hornqvist is everything I wish Abdelkader was.

I hate that guy.

 

[Frk It]

To everyone that's harped on Yzerman for drafting Drouin....

You see how good this kid is, right? Very talented player. This is why I have said many times to wait before you knock that pick.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

To everyone that's harped on Yzerman for drafting Drouin....

You see how good this kid is, right? Very talented player. This is why I have said many times to wait before you knock that pick.

drouin and kucherov are way stamkos will not get resigned in tampa

add to that palat, hedman and johnson

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

To everyone that's harped on Yzerman for drafting Drouin....

You see how good this kid is, right? Very talented player. This is why I have said many times to wait before you knock that pick.

Picking him over Seth Jones already cost them one cup in my opinion. It was the wrong player given what was on the board.

I will remain unchanged by that. You could have deployed Jones, Hedman and Stralman on ice for virtually the entire game.

Hedman and Jones would have been as lethal as Niedermayer and Pronger, Vladdy and Lidstrom. It had a mega wattage potential in terms of two #1's that can play together sometimes but anchor a pairing when apart and distribute the ice time to suffocating the other team for the entire game.

The bigger one with Yzerman and Drouin was he handled the rocky part of the relationship really well from and organizational perspective. That isn't all that surprising though, if there is one thing we know after all these years it is don't cross Yzerman. The guy wins all of those, sometimes immediately and sometimes eventually. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Drouin is now peddled for his worth, now that it is appropriately back up. People that feuded with Yzerman in Detroit all were shipped or lost significant power for doing it, Fedorov being the notable exception that took a long time. That seems to have carried on to Tampa as well, don't want to listen Downey you're gone, MSL here your ticket out whiner...

 

[Frk It]

Picking him over Seth Jones already cost them one cup in my opinion. It was the wrong player given what was on the board.

I will remain unchanged by that. You could have deployed Jones, Hedman and Stralman on ice for virtually the entire game.

Hedman and Jones would have been as lethal as Niedermayer and Pronger, Vladdy and Lidstrom. It had a mega wattage potential in terms of two #1's that can play together sometimes but anchor a pairing when apart and distribute the ice time to suffocating the other team for the entire game.

The bigger one with Yzerman and Drouin was he handled the rocky part of the relationship really well from and organizational perspective. That isn't all that surprising though, if there is one thing we know after all these years it is don't cross Yzerman. The guy wins all of those, sometimes immediately and sometimes eventually. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Drouin is now peddled for his worth, now that it is appropriately back up. People that feuded with Yzerman in Detroit all were shipped or lost significant power for doing it, Fedorov being the notable exception that took a long time. That seems to have carried on to Tampa as well, don't want to listen Downey you're gone, MSL here your ticket out whiner...

I understand the "should've taken Jones" angle. Although I thought Florida should have taken him too, in which case he's not even there for Tampa.

But people were making this pick out to be awful, not really realizing how good of a hockey player Jonathan Drouin is. I understand the character concerns and all, but the kid is an elite talent IMO, and he's starting to show it.

Cost them a Cup? Awfully bold statement. Not really sure I buy that. Prior to this year, he was playing behind second to third pair minutes. Ryan Ellis was seeing the ice more than hiim in Nashville. Hedman and Stralman is a really strong pairing, it's not like they are hurting in that regard.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

I understand the "should've taken Jones" angle. Although I thought Florida should have taken him too, in which case he's not even there for Tampa.

But people were making this pick out to be awful, not really realizing how good of a hockey player Jonathan Drouin is. I understand the character concerns and all, but the kid is an elite talent IMO, and he's starting to show it.

I was surprised by that in terms of Florida, but unlike Drouin, Barkov I had as third entering that draft year and he has more than proven it is okay. Still prefer Jones there but Barkov looks to be a Top 10 center with Top 5 seasons moving forward.

Was never the biggest Drouin fan. The dipsy doodle hockey he plays is going to get him smoked a lot. I had him seventh in terms of how I felt in his draft year though admittedly he was just a toss up with Lindholm/Monohan with me just preferring those two as centers more to get the edge for me.

He has a lot of talent, wasn't expecting him to add the jam he has to his game. So this might work out better than I initially thought. Still I doubt I will ever eat my words on he shouldn't have been the pick there and I think he is always running as the fourth most talented NHLer from his draft even if he completely pans out. Not bad to be sure, but also not an uh oh... eat some crow moment though either.

Yes I maintain that not picking Jones has cost them a cup in my opinion. I think they could have had the best pairing in the NHL for a decade, Stralman could have provided stability for someone else. But they could have actually had Weber & Suter but with talented forwards in front of them. That is more important than another skilled winger.

 

[Mount Suribachi]

Chicago and Pittsburgh have an insane amount of puck luck....it always seems to follow them. Here's to hoping Washington finds a way to come back.

Just watching the extended highlights, they do seem to be getting all the bounces in this series. Sign of a great team, or unsustainable over 6 weeks of playoff hockey?

 

[Frk It]

I was surprised by that in terms of Florida, but unlike Drouin, Barkov I had as third entering that draft year and he has more than proven it is okay. Still prefer Jones there but Barkov looks to be a Top 10 center with Top 5 seasons moving forward.

Was never the biggest Drouin fan. The dipsy doodle hockey he plays is going to get him smoked a lot. I had him seventh in terms of how I felt in his draft year though admittedly he was just a toss up with Lindholm/Monohan with me just preferring those two as centers more to get the edge for me.

He has a lot of talent, wasn't expecting him to add the jam he has to his game. So this might work out better than I initially thought. Still I doubt I will ever eat my words on he shouldn't have been the pick there and I think he is always running as the fourth most talented NHLer from his draft even if he completely pans out. Not bad to be sure, but also not an uh oh... eat some crow moment though either.

Seventh??? Seriously? Wow.

I think they were banking on him transitioning and projecting at center. In which case he has significantly more value. Believe they sent him back to Halifax for that specific reason, but I think his game is just going to be more effective out on the wing.

I think he can be a really, really productive winger in this league though. Like Taylor Hall good.

Yes I maintain that not picking Jones has cost them a cup in my opinion. I think they could have had the best pairing in the NHL for a decade, Stralman could have provided stability for someone else. But they could have actually had Weber & Suter but with talented forwards in front of them. That is more important than another skilled winger.

Also know you are bullish on Jones, which I mean, I definitely get. Almost had him #1 in that draft over Mackinnon, he was firmly at #2 for me though. I think you (IIRC) were proclaiming he was better than Weber from pretty early, and I thought that was premature. Don't even think he's there yet, but I really like his ceiling and trajectory moving forward. I think he passes both Drouin and Barkov in time.

 

[Frk It]

I hate that guy.

Ditto. Love how Pittsburgh is going to win the Cup the year I move there.

That team just torments me...

 

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

I was surprised by that in terms of Florida, but unlike Drouin, Barkov I had as third entering that draft year and he has more than proven it is okay. Still prefer Jones there but Barkov looks to be a Top 10 center with Top 5 seasons moving forward.

Was never the biggest Drouin fan. The dipsy doodle hockey he plays is going to get him smoked a lot. I had him seventh in terms of how I felt in his draft year though admittedly he was just a toss up with Lindholm/Monohan with me just preferring those two as centers more to get the edge for me.

He has a lot of talent, wasn't expecting him to add the jam he has to his game. So this might work out better than I initially thought. Still I doubt I will ever eat my words on he shouldn't have been the pick there and I think he is always running as the fourth most talented NHLer from his draft even if he completely pans out. Not bad to be sure, but also not an uh oh... eat some crow moment though either.

Yes I maintain that not picking Jones has cost them a cup in my opinion. I think they could have had the best pairing in the NHL for a decade, Stralman could have provided stability for someone else. But they could have actually had Weber & Suter but with talented forwards in front of them. That is more important than another skilled winger.

Nah, injuries and getting worn down cost them the cup. Their defensive depth was solid. Jones was pretty good last year, but he's still developing.

 

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

I wish Parks and Rec was as good as The Office. Hornqvist is the best net front guy in the league, you are holding Abby to a lofty standard.

Hey man. I think it's fairly close. I think 7 seasons of Park ended up being better than 9 seasons of the Office. But the Office had a better peak.

 

[Frk It]

I wish Parks and Rec was as good as The Office. Hornqvist is the best net front guy in the league, you are holding Abby to a lofty standard.

I wish Abby was as good as Parks and Rec.

 

[YpsiWings]

Hey man. I think it's fairly close. I think 7 seasons of Park ended up being better than 9 seasons of the Office. But the Office had a better peak.

Parks and Rec was great, no chance it's better than The Office. Dwight Schrute might be the best character in television history.

I wish Abby was as good as Parks and Rec.

Haha, touché.

 

[Chance on Chance]

Just watching the extended highlights, they do seem to be getting all the bounces in this series. Sign of a great team, or unsustainable over 6 weeks of playoff hockey?

just how the puck went right to his stick for the OT goal.