Around the NHL 2014-15, Part I
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That would be too rich for my blood. I don't think he's an impact guy anymore. And he's the textbook definition of rental.
But hey, if you want a free 2nd round pick next year, sign Jagr and let him play 50 games for you.
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Brady Trettenero @BradyTrett 7m7 minutes ago
Jagr in 1992: "I want to be traded where there's beaches. I have 2 Stanley Cups. I don't need more rings. I need money, beaches and girls."
Jagr in 1992: "I want to be traded where there's beaches. I have 2 Stanley Cups. I don't need more rings. I need money, beaches and girls."
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I have no idea. I guess they want a player that is healthy, but Clarkson? And his contract? Yikes.
If Clarkson can be traded, anybody can be traded. 26 points in 118 games for the Leafs. $5.25 million cap hit until 2020.
EDIT: Here's some explanation.
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Like I said in the other thread, really ****ing dumb of Columbus to give a beacoup salary to Horton knowing he wouldn't be insured. He's a glass man. And Columbus isn't Toronto. According to Forbes, Columbus has the 2nd least value of all NHL franchises (worst being Florida).
And at first I was thinking Columbus had traded for Horton. But then I realized they signed him in free agency, which makes this even worse. Its nearly as dumb as the Clarkson deal.
And at first I was thinking Columbus had traded for Horton. But then I realized they signed him in free agency, which makes this even worse. Its nearly as dumb as the Clarkson deal.
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I can't believe they didn't insure his contract. He had a serious injury history prior to that! Just utter stupidity.
There was a reason they didn't, financially. They gambled and lost.
Regardless, we're now seeing a NEW LOOPHOLE for rich teams. It doubt it becomes a common scenario, they time to close that loophole down if you are serious about the salary cap meaning anything. Toronto can throw money at their mistake and get off the hook, which I kind of hate.
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Toronto totally getting bailed out of a **** contract. Ridiculous.
Columbus helping Toronto with their rebuild.
Columbus helping Toronto with their rebuild.
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I mean I guess having someone who can play is better than having someone who can't...
But when they're both bad contracts, give me the one I can actually LTIR. You're stuck with Clarkson.
But when they're both bad contracts, give me the one I can actually LTIR. You're stuck with Clarkson.
It's Columbus, a smaller organization, not wanting to waste $25 million on a guy that doesn't even play. Toronto just sells a few more branded cup holders and slippers and calls it a day eating the cost.
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Is it really a new loophole? I feel like its just a freak scenario that employs the Pronger loophole that has been around for a while.
What worries me is how much attention this has brought to the Pronger loophole. Really hope the league doesn't find some way to eliminate it. We're going to need it for Franzen.
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Could be ala Lindros they couldn't get him insured. Even in what might be the insurance capitals of America. But if you cannot get insured, obviously you should think about passing, but my guess is this was the gamble. Not they didn't try and just took a chance, they were probably told no and moved ahead anyway. Different risk assessment that did in fact backfire.
I feel like somebody has been saying that since the day the new CBA was put in....
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Keep in mind a substantial amount of Clarkson's contract has actually been paid as well. Remember he had insane bonuses on the front of that. The Blue Jackets are saving a ton of money here and as a budget team the why not just LTIR him doesn't apply. They aren't pushing that kind of money on the table, they actually can add another player by doing this, they cannot do that just simply by using the LTIR on Horton. That is the real world angle on this.
I feel like somebody has been saying that since the day the new CBA was put in....
While true, this is the first time we've seen a rich team take on a LTIR contract a poor team couldn't handle, right? So what I hope we don't see more of is teams like Toronto, New York, Montreal, etc using their buying power to convince teams like Arizona and Columbus to take their mistakes in exchange for monetary relief.
If this was Clarkson going on LTIR, eh, okay no big deal. He's hurt. But instead we're seeing Clarkson is still healthy AND Toronto gets out of their disaster contract. All because they can afford to eat the cost of another LTIR. Ugh, it's just ugly all around.
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His contract isn't insured, meaning they actually pay Horton not to play. That's a lot of money for a small market. At least Clarkson can play for them.
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And again, a significant portion of Clarkson's ridiculous contract is actually already picked up in real dollars. It was a bonus heavy deal.
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