Around The NHL #11

[GhostofTommyBolin]

 

[GhostofTommyBolin]

 

[Jagged Ice]

Might look like a haul for Calgary, but Huberdeau and Weeger both need contracts.
Florida has Tkachuk signed.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

Thank goodness we don't have a GM as stupid as Florida's.

 

[Jagged Ice]

Thank goodness we don't have a GM as stupid as Florida's.

Wasn't Zito almost our GM? Or was that just chatter on HF?

 

[GhostofTommyBolin]

Might look like a haul for Calgary, but Huberdeau and Weeger both need contracts.
Florida has Tkachuk signed.

Yep. And Huberdeau is going to want $9 mil per and he's 29 years old.

 

[GhostofTommyBolin]

Thank goodness we don't have a GM as stupid as Florida's.

Kinda depends; if he knew Huberdeau wasn't planning on signing there long term, plus the fact he'll want money equal to Tkachuk and he's 5 years older? And he can re-sign Weegar after the season if he's so inclined?

I think Florida got the better end of it. It might end up being Schwindt and a conditional 1st for Tkachuk. That's a fantastic deal.

 

[Mosby]

Wasn't Zito almost our GM? Or was that just chatter on HF?

Nope. He didn’t interview here. But BA interviewed with Florida.

 

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Thank goodness we don't have a GM as stupid as Florida's.

He traded two assets with minimal control for one of the best young wingers in the game. Zito did great.

 

[AZviaNJ]

Thank goodness we don't have a GM as stupid as Florida's.

2 pending UFA’s and didn’t return a 2023 1st???

Treliving was in a helpless spot but should’ve done better than that.

It was a Florida fleecing.

 

[Jamieh]

I think the Flames did well. They traded one year of Tkachuk for one year of Huberdeau and Weeger at roughly same money plus got a 1st and a prospect. If they can't sign them they are an easier trade at deadline with reduced Cap hits.

 

[Mosby]

Question is if Flames will move those players at the deadline if they’re in a playoff spot.

 

[Jakey53]

Thank goodness we don't have a GM as stupid as Florida's.

Most wanted Zito here.

 

[Jakey53]

I think the Flames did well. They traded one year of Tkachuk for one year of Huberdeau and Weeger at roughly same money plus got a 1st and a prospect. If they can't sign them they are an easier trade at deadline with reduced Cap hits.

For one year I think the advantage is Calgary by a small margin. After that it swings in Florida's favor. You try to make deals to help your team long term and Calgary did notr do that. Also, what does Calgary do now? They lost Johnny hockey because of stupidity by not trading him, and now they have Huberdeau and Weeger in the same boat.

 

[Jakey53]

Question is if Flames will move those players at the deadline if they’re in a playoff spot.

They should trade them now. Get assets and start the rebuild. I hope Calgary keeps them so they won't be another tank team.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

2 pending UFA’s and didn’t return a 2023 1st???

Treliving was in a helpless spot but should’ve done better than that.

It was a Florida fleecing.

I guess it depends on how you view Matthew Tkachuk. For the cost of his extension and what he had to give up, Zito ridiculously overpaid.

 

[Baby Doaner]

Most wanted Zito here.

I wouldn’t say most. I think we all wanted a competent GM.

 

[Jamieh]

They should trade them now. Get assets and start the rebuild. I hope Calgary keeps them so they won't be another tank team.

Rebuild? They still have a goalie who was in the Vezina running, a center who was in the Selke running, top pair D who was in conversation for best pairing in League, and got a player who was in the running for the Hart. I'd pump the brakes on that.

 

[Jakey53]

Rebuild? They still have a goalie who was in the Vezina running, a center who was in the Selke running, top pair D who was in conversation for best pairing in League, and got a player who was in the running for the Hart. I'd pump the brakes on that.

They just lost their best player for nothing. The players they got for MK are both UFA's after this year and will want big deals and both are at or past their prime. Huberdeau had a great year but he had a great surrounding cast around him. Calgary with their current roster in a "win now" area. The only problem, they aren't good enough to go deep in the playoffs. Everything lined up for Calgary last year, I doubt it happens again, but at least with Sutter they have a chance to be respectable.

 

[Jamieh]

They just lost their best player for nothing. The players they got for MK are both UFA's after this year and will want big deals and both are at or past their prime. Huberdeau had a great year but he had a great surrounding cast around him. Calgary with their current roster in a "win now" area. The only problem, they aren't good enough to go deep in the playoffs. Everything lined up for Calgary last year, I doubt it happens again, but at least with Sutter they have a chance to be respectable.

I just told you their best player, the goalie, is still there!!!!! Their really good is largely intact. Their best player as you suggest is replaced by a guy just as good this season. The Flames are fine short term, you don't tear that down , you adjust annually.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

 

[Jamieh]

Wonder why?? The major benefits of SB is an American working in Canada or visa versa, lockout protection, and buyout protection. Which of these concerns Tkachuk?

 

[The Feckless Puck]

Wonder why?? The major benefits of SB is an American working in Canada or visa versa, lockout protection, and buyout protection. Which of these concerns Tkachuk?

Cap circumvention, I'd guess.

 

[Jamieh]

Cap circumvention, I'd guess.

How? It's still same average Cap hit

 

[Jakey53]

I just told you their best player, the goalie, is still there!!!!! Their really good is largely intact. Their best player as you suggest is replaced by a guy just as good this season. The Flames are fine short term, you don't tear that down , you adjust annually.

They are fine for one year, then all hell breaks loose.