Around the League VI

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

Sutter/Goldobin or Sutter/Juolevi for Puljujarvi + cap dumps Spooner/Manning

 

[GetFocht]

Is Virtanen a replacement level NHLer?

What does Virtanen have to do with McCann?

 

[Pip]

What does Virtanen have to do with McCann?

Just wondering if your argument against McCann holds up against a similar player on the Canucks.

Virtanen has played 198 games and has 56 points. Seems like replacement level production.

Virtanen is on pace for 31 points this year
McCann for 32 points

 

[geebaan]

Just wondering if your argument against McCann holds up against a similar player on the Canucks.

Virtanen has played 198 games and has 56 points. Seems like replacement level production.

Virtanen is on pace for 31 points this year
McCann for 32 points

Uh oh, got em now.

 

[GetFocht]

Just wondering if your argument against McCann holds up against a similar player on the Canucks.

Virtanen has played 198 games and has 56 points. Seems like replacement level production.

Virtanen is on pace for 31 points this year
McCann for 32 points

sure, if you would like to validate that then by all means its your prerogative, but what I still don't understand is why are you bringing up Virtanen when I am talking about McCann. The logic of some arguments here is completely idiotic, its like saying, "I don't like firetrucks because they're red", "then you hate apples because they're red too"

 

[PM]

That’s so stupid I just laughed out loud in the airport reading it.

 

[Addison Rae]

sure, if you would like to validate that then by all means its your prerogative, but what I still don't understand is why are you bringing up Virtanen when I am talking about McCann. The logic of some arguments here is completely idiotic, its like saying, "I don't like firetrucks because they're red", "then you hate apples because they're red too"

Accept the L and move on, quit embarrassing yourself.

 

[Fire Benning]

That’s so stupid I just laughed out loud in the airport reading it.

I'm pretty his comment wasn't even in english, he needs to move on.

 

[GetFocht]

I'm pretty his comment wasn't even in english, he needs to move on.

I'm sorry that your reading comprehension seems to be equivalent to a grade school kid. You may want to fix the grammar in your sentence if you want to resort to baseless arguments.

 

[Hit the post]

lol ok, we need to get over this McCann train, its starting to be reminiscent of the Gaunce Bros here.

McCann has played 220 games now in the NHL, producing 74 points. That's a large enough sample that indicates what type of player McCann will be, he will be a 20-30 point player. That's a replacement level player in the NHL.

Jay Beagle is replacement level?

 

[M2Beezy]

Virtanen is more physical. Getting better in better every year too. Id say he has other qualities better than Mccann like his defensive game but tbh I dont know much about Mccanns defensive game

 

[GetFocht]

Jay Beagle is replacement level?

Do you believe Jay Beagle is a replacement level player?

 

[Hit the post]

Do you believe Jay Beagle is a replacement level player?

Nope. I think the original premise wasn’t great (that a 20-30 point player is replacement level). It doesn’t take account what role that player has. A checking center isn’t likely to be putting up a lot of points. Unless I’m mistaken, that’s how McCann has been used lately.

 

[GetFocht]

Nope. I think the original premise wasn’t great (that a 20-30 point player is replacement level). It doesn’t take account what role that player has. A checking center isn’t likely to be putting up a lot of points.

I agree, Jay Beagle isn't a replacement level player because of his PK ability, faceoffs, work ethic, and his locker room presence to holding players accountable.

 

[Uhmkay]

I'd definitely kick the tires on PoolParty. If we could get him for a 2nd and some sort of medium level prospect, I'd definitely think about it.

2nd + Gadjovich or something.

 

[M2Beezy]

I'd definitely kick the tires on PoolParty. If we could get him for a 2nd and some sort of medium level prospect, I'd definitely think about it.

2nd + Gadjovich or something.

Nahhhhh too much to give up for a potential bust. Id do Gudbranson and a 4h for Pullji and a 3rd

 

[Pip]

I agree, Jay Beagle isn't a replacement level player because of his PK ability, faceoffs, work ethic, and his locker room presence to holding players accountable.

McCann is a good penalty killer as well. He also adds speed and versatility to the penguins lineup while still having untapped offensively potential. He’s already a good defensive centre.

He’s a useful player and you’ve yet to put forth a real argument that he’s not.

 

[Pip]

Virtanen is more physical. Getting better in better every year too. Id say he has other qualities better than Mccann like his defensive game but tbh I dont know much about Mccanns defensive game

At least you admitted that you don’t know much about McCann’s game.

 

[Bleach Clean]

lol ok, we need to get over this McCann train, its starting to be reminiscent of the Gaunce Bros here.

McCann has played 220 games now in the NHL, producing 74 points. That's a large enough sample that indicates what type of player McCann will be, he will be a 20-30 point player. That's a replacement level player in the NHL.

That's a 3rd liner given the appropriate matchups PD....

 

[Bad Goalie]

Virtanen is more physical. Getting better in better every year too. Id say he has other qualities better than Mccann like his defensive game but tbh I dont know much about Mccanns defensive game

Yet you comment upon it in declaring Jake the better player. If Pitt is using him as their shutdown center and they are liking his effort, it must mean his defensive game is pretty darned good, eh? They are on identical point paces at the moment. I would venture to guess McCann will end up with the greater number of points while that is not the toatl measure of their games. The fact that one is a center and the other a wing says that comparing them is much more difficult.

Seems to me that those dismissing McCann's efforts are doing so to make his trade the acquisition of Gudbranson less egregious. The fact they are both in the NHL says they are both doing something right and now like Bonino playing with a much better team is likely to boost McCann's prospects.

 

[xtra]

I agree, Jay Beagle isn't a replacement level player because of his PK ability, faceoffs, work ethic, and his locker room presence to holding players accountable.

Work ethic and locker room presence have nothing. To do with if a player is replacement level or not.

Otherwise mark messier is not below replacement level right now

 

[Pip]

Faceoffs also have to be one of the most easy to replace skills out there

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

I'd definitely kick the tires on PoolParty. If we could get him for a 2nd and some sort of medium level prospect, I'd definitely think about it.

2nd + Gadjovich or something.

Everybody is thinking they can get Puljijarvi for pennies on the dollar..not going to happen..He's only 20...I doubt they move him.

 

[Bleach Clean]

C'mon EDM Oilers, win this game. I can't believe I'm saying this, but even I'm sick of that team losing repeatedly.

 

[valkynax]

C'mon EDM Oilers, win this game. I can't believe I'm saying this, but even I'm sick of that team losing repeatedly.

You know what that team needs?

A forward like Bart and a goalie like Lisa.