Around the League 22: But how will it work next season?

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

If it takes a 2nd to dump 1 year of Staal at $5.7M, I shudder to think what it would take to dump 3 yrs of Gardiner at $4.05M. At least Gardiner is still somewhat useful, at times.

Which means that the Canes won't do it unless they have a Cirelli trade-and-extension ready.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

If it takes a 2nd to dump 1 year of Staal at $5.7M, I shudder to think what it would take to dump 3 yrs of Gardiner at $4.05M. At least Gardiner is still somewhat useful, at times.

Gardiner will be back. He isn’t a dump.

 

[spockBokk]

Gardiner will be back. He isn’t a dump.

Of course he’ll be back, or he’ll be traded for another team’s headache.

 

[spockBokk]

Which means that the Canes won't do it unless they have a Cirelli trade-and-extension ready.

The only thing I don’t like about Gardiner on the 3rd pair and 2nd pp unit is the cost. If they move out Skjei and let Fleury take the 2nd pair LD spot, I wouldn’t be too gutted.

One of Skjei/Gardiner needs to go for cap balance in my view.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Can we keep it going and trade Jordan?

 

[A Star is Burns]

I suppose given Dundon's comments we won't make it a Staal trade hat trick.

 

[A Star is Burns]

Can we keep it going and trade Jordan?

Jynx!

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Jynx!

 

[GoldiFox]

I suppose given Dundon's comments we won't make it a Staal trade hat trick.

"One of the best players in the league" should bring the Canes a nice trade haul.

He'd be one of the better Cap dumps in the league, that is for sure.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Serious or lip service? If this results in a buyout, I could see Staal as a fit as part of a 3rd pairing rotation.

 

[A Star is Burns]

Serious or lip service? If this results in a buyout, I could see Staal as a fit as part of a 3rd pairing rotation.

Nah

 

[Joe McGrath]

I mean if the hole they are plugging is veteran d-man for 3rd pairing, yes it plugs a hole. He can’t be worse than the dogshit they had last year.

 

[cptjeff]

If it takes a 2nd to dump 1 year of Staal at $5.7M, I shudder to think what it would take to dump 3 yrs of Gardiner at $4.05M. At least Gardiner is still somewhat useful, at times.

I'd take Marc over Gardiner any day of the week.

 

[MinJaBen]

I mean if the hole they are plugging is veteran d-man for 3rd pairing, yes it plugs a hole. He can’t be worse than the dogshit they had last year.

Narrator’s voice: Yes he can.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

I'd take Marc over Gardiner any day of the week.

Wuuuuut?!?!

 

[MinJaBen]

Wuuuuut?!?!

I’d do a straight swap. One year of Staal is better than 3 of Gardiner.

 

[cptjeff]

Wuuuuut?!?!

Gardiner actively lost this team games defensively, especially early in the season, and contributed nothing of value on the offensive side of the puck, which was supposed to be his great asset. But he got burned for breakaways constantly when trying to make offensive plays. He played better at the end of the season, but "better" is a relative term, and he did it in extremely sheltered ice time. He did not play well. Marc Staal is slow and useless these days, but he doesn't try to do to make aggressive plays like Gardiner does, so his mistakes don't lead to big breakaways on a nightly basis.

Gardiner makes the team worse every time he steps on the ice. Marc Staal is a passable 6D.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Gardiner actively lost this team games defensively, especially early in the season, and contributed nothing of value on the offensive side of the puck, which was supposed to be his great asset. But he got burned for breakaways constantly when trying to make offensive plays. He played better at the end of the season, but "better" is a relative term, and he did it in extremely sheltered ice time. He did not play well. Marc Staal is slow and useless these days, but he doesn't try to do to make aggressive plays like Gardiner does, so his mistakes don't lead to big breakaways on a nightly basis.

Gardiner makes the team worse every time he steps on the ice. Marc Staal is a passable 6D.

Most of this is hyperbole. Gardiner does and will provide more than Staal. I don’t even like Gardiner but he isn’t that bad. His passing was pretty good the 2nd half. Unfortunately for him he wasnt playing with scorers on the ice. Plenty of nothing burgers from McGinn, Foegele, etc receiving his 60 foot pass.

As much as we wanted to run Dougie out from his first half here, Im willing to give Gardiner another shot. Staal isn’t a serviceable 6D either.

 

[GoldiFox]

Renaud Lavoie said last night that Gaudreau is on his way out from the Flames. Given Dundon's comments about size/scoring and the previous big trade between the two teams I wonder if Calgary and Carolina are talking.

 

[Lempo]

I intuitively don't like Gaudreau.

Curiously, it's probably the wovels.

 

[WreckingCrew]

Marc Staal > Gardiner may be one of the better hot taeks recently. Gards was bad at times early on but he's also shown he has some usefulness and can contribute to the offensive side of the game too...Staal is a pylon. If he's close enough he can defend decent, but he contributes almost nothing offensively...he's an older, slower version of this year's TVR?

 

[BHD]

Has to be lip service. Staal has struggled mightily since that horrific eye injury. Yzerman would have been better off saying he’ll improve the culture of the team, help the younger players, etc.

 

[WreckingCrew]

Penguins fans now think the difference between an RFA swap involving Murray is taking on JJ (with a whole $750k retained!!)

 

[GoldiFox]

Robert Hagg extends for 2 years x $1.6 million. He's a pretty good direct comparable for Fleury.

 

[AD Skinner]

I don't watch enough of the flyers to know anything about hagg but I'd totally give fleury that deal