Around the League 22: But how will it work next season?

[cptjeff]

Button was the one that called it early and often that Hanifin was a mistake to be the top defender. He questioned his smarts and offense I believe. Liked him but not above Provorov and Werenski. I actually think he picked Werenski of the three.

Of all the bigger names out there pre draft I believe his was by far the loudest and maybe the only one that really was against Hanifin where we were.

Yeah, and we mocked him at the time.

Oh well, we got Dougie out of it, and while we still need to get that contract done, that's a great outcome.

 

[raynman]

Button was the one that called it early and often that Hanifin was a mistake to be the top defender. He questioned his smarts and offense I believe. Liked him but not above Provorov and Werenski. I actually think he picked Werenski of the three.

Of all the bigger names out there pre draft I believe his was by far the loudest and maybe the only one that really was against Hanifin where we were.

If I remember correctly a lot of us said he was wrong

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

But they were wrong to play up the defense because Hanifin has always been weakest at defense. The fundamental and basic concepts of it. He admitted it himself early on that he had never been coached defensively.

I often compared him to J-bo and Hedican back then which even then I knew was very flawed because they were both high end D first guys, I just find the three to be very similar skaters. All pretty upright for being tall, though it works very well for them all using low lie sticks to keep their hands low and extend their reach. Petro as well.

All true. Most 17 year olds aren’t great defensively, so compared to a lot of his peers, he probably looked better because he was big and a great skater which made him passable at the NCAA level, as he could overcome a lot because of that.

even Provorov had some struggles defensively for a while.

 

[bleedgreen]

If I remember correctly a lot of us said he was wrong

All of hf boards mocked him at the time and still do in general mercilessly. He’s as good a draft guesser as there is out there.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Button was the one that called it early and often that Hanifin was a mistake to be the top defender. He questioned his smarts and offense I believe. Liked him but not above Provorov and Werenski. I actually think he picked Werenski of the three.

Of all the bigger names out there pre draft I believe his was by far the loudest and maybe the only one that really was against Hanifin where we were.

yep

2015 NHL Draft Prospect Rankings

 

[bleedgreen]

All true. Most 17 year olds aren’t great defensively, so compared to a lot of his peers, he probably looked better because he was big and a great skater which made him passable at the NCAA level, as he could overcome a lot because of that.

even Provorov had some struggles defensively for a while.

Provorov has looked the best most consistently though to me. The day of the draft I had come around to wanting him over Hanifin but was still happy we got what we got.

 

[Joe McGrath]

yep

2015 NHL Draft Prospect Rankings

He also had Barzal and Rantanen lower than just about everyone else, so it’s not exactly the greatest list ever.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

He also had Barzal and Rantanen lower than just about everyone else, so it’s not exactly the greatest list ever.

No list is the greatest list ever

 

[Joe McGrath]

No list is the greatest list ever

Well that’s simply not true.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Well that’s simply not true.

If having players too low on draft rankings is the criteria for a list to be not so great, then it certainly is true. Other than his list, everyone had Hanifin 3-5. Most had Crouse high. Other than Pronman, nobody had Aho in their top 75. Etc.

My point is projecting these guys after the first couple of picks is a bit of a crapshoot, and they all have their share of misses.

 

[MinJaBen]

If having players too low on draft rankings is the criteria for a list to be not so great, then it certainly is true. Other than his list, everyone had Hanifin 3-5. Most had Crouse high. Other than Pronman, nobody had Aho in their top 75. Etc.

My point is projecting these guys after the first couple of picks is a bit of a crapshoot, and they all have their share of misses.

One of the lists you shared in the list had Aho in the 1st round. One had Nic Roy in the first round as well.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

One of the lists you shared in the list had Aho in the 1st round. One had Nic Roy in the first round as well.

Correct, thus why I said “other than Pronman”, nobody had Aho in their top 75. Pronman’s list did. Many didn’t show 75 so I can’t be sure on all so 75 is a bit of an exaggeration , but iirc, McKenzie didn’t have him in top 75 and other than Pronman, nobody had him in 1st round.

edit: even central scouting had the Swedish Aho at #13 for international skaters and the Finish Aho at #18

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

No list is the greatest list ever

Disagree. Hanks lists have always been 100% accurate.

 

[Joe McGrath]

If having players too low on draft rankings is the criteria for a list to be not so great, then it certainly is true. Other than his list, everyone had Hanifin 3-5. Most had Crouse high. Other than Pronman, nobody had Aho in their top 75. Etc.

My point is projecting these guys after the first couple of picks is a bit of a crapshoot, and they all have their share of misses.

You missed my semantics joke and wrote a long tweet defending yourself instead. Such a huge W for me. Or an L because my joke was dogshit. I’m fine with either.

 

[emptyNedder]

You missed my semantics joke and wrote a long tweet defending yourself instead. Such a huge W for me. Or an L because my joke was dogshit. I’m fine with either.

Definitely a win—there is always a greatest ever. That even holds true for Michael Bolton songs.

 

[To Be Determined]

we were all the greatest sperm in our cohort.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

You missed my semantics joke and wrote a long tweet defending yourself instead. Such a huge W for me. Or an L because my joke was dogshit. I’m fine with either.

It’s not like I ever missed a joke on HF, so I’ll take the L.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

we were all the greatest sperm in our cohort.

I’ve met enough people where I’m convinced there had to be a better sperm than the one that created them.

 

[hblueridgegal]

Look forward to seeing how this goes.

 

[DaveG]

Definitely a win—there is always a greatest ever. That even holds true for Michael Bolton songs.

I, for one, celebrate his entire catalogue.

 

[DaveG]

Look forward to seeing how this goes.

hoping another Hurricane becomes the first in league history to score a goal in a month (July)

 

[Lempo]

we were all the greatest sperm in our cohort.

Apparently it is not so, by recent reports.

The egg decides which sperm fertilizes it

Now, a new study shows that even though the fastest and most capable sperms reach the ovum first, it is the egg that has the final say on which sperm fertilizes it.

 

[HisIceness]

Look forward to seeing how this goes.

I forsee a lot of back-to-backs if this happens, unless they are cool w/ the season ending in August or September. Keep in mind if things were normal the '20-21 season would begin in about 2 weeks.

 

[HisIceness]

hoping another Hurricane becomes the first in league history to score a goal in a month (July)

I hope it's Peter Mrazek for the laughs.

 

[Joe McGrath]

Apparently it is not so, by recent reports.

The egg decides which sperm fertilizes it

Sounds like some man wants to blame his wife for his kids being morons.