Speculation: Armchair GM / Speculation / Rumours Thread XXIV - Beware of Doug

[OvermanKingGainer]

There's only two moves that I absolutely want to happen by the end of next summer.

Brouwer lost to expansion

Oduya signed to a 2 year deal


Use the remaining cap space however you like but I feel like these two moves are no-brainers right now

If the bolded alone happens, I think the Flames will have had a pretty encouraging offseason.

I'm indifferent on Oduya. I think he makes our top 4 better, but I'd rather finally go with some prospects in those 4-6 spots while the three vets hold down the 1-3 spots. That's how successful teams operate.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

What's funny is most of those idiots were TSN itself... funny how they'd even conduct that interview.

Comes in like Negan. "Don't you guys start spreading those rumors again. I will shut that **** down! No exceptions!"

I've lost so much respect for TSN, especially after this. One guy I do like a lot is Chris Johnson of Sportsnet. He's really good at his job and really values a good reputation.

 

[BigRangy]

If the bolded alone happens, I think the Flames will have had a pretty encouraging offseason.

I'm indifferent on Oduya. I think he makes our top 4 better, but I'd rather finally go with some prospects in those 4-6 spots while the three vets hold down the 1-3 spots. That's how successful teams operate.

Oduya would be a stop-gap and there for stability more than anything. I can't see 3 of the kids surpassing him by the end of 2018. He'd plug a big hole.

 

[Flameshomer]

Lol, I love Burkie and that rant today was great. But does anyone else think his speaking mannerisms are a little trumpesque?

 

[Anglesmith]

Lol, I love Burkie and that rant today was great. But does anyone else think his speaking mannerisms are a little trumpesque?

Not even a little bit. Unless you're suggesting that everyone who talks loudly on TV is Trumpesque.

 

[InfinityIggy]

Lol, I love Burkie and that rant today was great. But does anyone else think his speaking mannerisms are a little trumpesque?

The thought totally crossed my mind

What I think it is, is just the hair though.

 

[Flameshomer]

The thought totally crossed my mind

What I think it is, is just the hair though.

Could be the hair!

AS I really didn't mean it as an insult, he just seems to phrase things and double touch on points with half sentences sometimes. It's like he starts saying a sentence before he's fully decided how he's going to deliver it
Just an observation! Great president of hockey ops though

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Burke is the new Trump. Like it!

 

[Mr Snrub]

Make the Flames great again

 

[Calculon]

LeBrun: A GM told me Flames have been exploring other trade options

LeBrun’s next comment perked up curious ears.

“I talked to a GM yesterday who said, ‘Everyone is so focused on Dougie – believe me, Brad Treliving has talked (about) other players with other teams here in the last few weeks.’

“So we’re all sort of pent up and hooked up one guy when the reality is when the Flames were a bit of a dumpster fire three weeks ago, I think that there were all kinds of explorations happening. At the end of the day, it’s not about one player. And now, in the meantime, the Flames have sort of turned the corner here and are playing a much steadier brand of game, which has probably quieted things down.”

File that little nugget of information away in the back of your mind.

More cold water on Dougie

“Listen, you could understand the frustration for Brian Burke and Brad Treliving, and frankly, probably Dougie Hamilton more than anyone about the ongoing rumors,” said LeBrun. “Especially when – I mean, listen. I’m not saying he’s never going to be dealt, because clearly teams have called and you can never say no if the offer is too good at some point.

“But I can tell you this: I haven’t had a single team – and believe me, there would be at least one team that would say to me, ‘You know they’re trying to trade him hard, eh?’ That’s never happened once. I’ve not had a single team say to me, ‘They’re really trying to trade Dougie Hamilton.’ Not one team has told me that.

“Now, because other teams have phoned – and mostly last summer – that’s going to get out. But there is a clear distinction between shopping a player and doing your job and listening to trade offers.”

 

[Lunatik]

That is why LeBrun is the best in the business. IMO he is better than McKenzie or Friedman.

 

[Flames Fanatic]

Unless we go back into a tailspin again, I think we are more likely to hold steady at this point. The team is back on the tracks, albeit not entirely smoothly yet, and we are still missing our best forward.

 

[FLAMES666]

That is why LeBrun is the best in the business. IMO he is better than McKenzie or Friedman.

Agreed. Freidman is pretty good to, Mckenizie in my mind gets worse as the years go on.

 

[East Coast Icestyle]

So, came across an article from yesterday in my facebook feed.

http://www.tsn.ca/statistically-speaking-the-best-nhl-lines-1.621279

Not putting too much stock into it, but basically, only one conclusion I can draw from this.

We're right, Backlund is a great player, and resigning him needs to be the #1 priority. We just can't let this guy go.

 

[Calculon]

Agreed that re-signing Backlund should be one of Treliving's top priorities this summer. Trading him or losing him to free agency the following year would set the team back more than most people realize.

If Backlund stays at or below the .5 point per game mark, I'll revise my earlier projection from 5M per to 4.5M, give or take .25M.

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

So, came across an article from yesterday in my facebook feed.

http://www.tsn.ca/statistically-speaking-the-best-nhl-lines-1.621279

Not putting too much stock into it, but basically, only one conclusion I can draw from this.

We're right, Backlund is a great player, and resigning him needs to be the #1 priority. We just can't let this guy go.

Not bad for an 18 year old, a #3 centre, and a 3rd line winger

 

[Skobel24]

Agreed that re-signing Backlund should be one of Treliving's top priorities this summer. Trading him or losing him to free agency the following year would set the team back more than most people realize.

If Backlund stays at or below the .5 point per game mark, I'll revise my earlier projection from 5M per to 4.5M, give or take .25M.

I'm open to re-signing him, as long as it's reasonable. I'd offer him around 4-4.5m per year.

 

[tmurfin]

I've lost so much respect for TSN, especially after this. One guy I do like a lot is Chris Johnson of Sportsnet. He's really good at his job and really values a good reputation.

TBH I prefer Sportsnet, TSN is a bunch of blowhards, excluding a few. TMZ of the hockey world.

I'll go hide now.

 

[East Coast Icestyle]

I'm open to re-signing him, as long as it's reasonable. I'd offer him around 4-4.5m per year.

If we could somehow get him at 4m for 3-5 years I'd be very happy

 

[Calculon]

4M seems too low after what Frolik and Brouwer got as UFA's.

Can see Backlund's camp using Soderberg as a comparable; signed at 29 years of age for 5 years at 4.75M per after putting up 44 points (13G, 31A) in 82 games with the Bruins.

Could see the Flames however point to Kadri who while not as good defensively, is younger with the better offensive numbers and signed for 6 years at 4.5M.

So, five years at roughly 4.5M seems fair for both sides.

 

[East Coast Icestyle]

Soderberg's contract was also on the open market, wasn't it? Hopefully Backlund doesn't reach that.

 

[FlamerForLife]

Soderberg's contract was also on the open market, wasn't it? Hopefully Backlund doesn't reach that.

The Avs traded for Soderbergh's rights and signed him before he hit the market.

 

[Lunatik]

The Avs traded for Soderbergh's rights and signed him before he hit the market.

I'm not sure that brings down market value when it was done during the FA negotiating period

 

[FlamerForLife]

I'm not sure that brings down market value when it was done during the FA negotiating period

Yeah that's true.
Hopefully we can get Backlund locked up for something like 4.5M for 5 or so years.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

4M seems too low after what Frolik and Brouwer got as UFA's.

Can see Backlund's camp using Soderberg as a comparable; signed at 29 years of age for 5 years at 4.75M per after putting up 44 points (13G, 31A) in 82 games with the Bruins.

Could see the Flames however point to Kadri who while not as good defensively, is younger with the better offensive numbers and signed for 6 years at 4.5M.

So, five years at roughly 4.5M seems fair for both sides.

Bang on assessment.