Speculation: Armchair GM / Speculation / Rumours Thread XXIV - Beware of Doug

[Ace Rimmer]

Dougie is not for sale.​

Previous thread: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2133421

Carry on.

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[BigRangy]

Dougie is not for sale

go away

 

[Johnny GODreau]

 

[Ynnek]

Dougie for sale?

 

[Mobiandi]

Depends on the return. I would love to add a player like Brock Boeser even if it cost our first. And yes, I think Boeser will be better than Nolan Patrick when it's all said and done.

Benning can't be that stupid

If it's not a top 3 pick, and it (the return) fills a long term need, sure.

See that's the thing. The more I look at our team, the more we could use an established but older top-6 talent. I'm talking someone who's got a decent amount of seasons under his belt (ideally a RW) rather than a new draftee or over-30 player. I agree with you that a top 3 pick might be too good to pass up, but if such a player weren't available through free agency, I would be glad to give up our first to pursue a trade

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

The Leafs are probably only interested because they think they can get Dougie for cheap, which is ridiculous. I've been pumping Dougies tires since he got here, when he's playing he looks elite, with some more maturity and consistency, he could be a top 15 Dman.

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

Benning can't be that stupid

Kind of makes sense for them too. They could come out of the draft with two of Patrick, Liljegren, or Hischier. Those are better pieces for Stage 1 of a Rebuild than Boeser who's a better add for Stage 2 of a rebuild.

 

[MonyontheMoney]

I'd potentially consider moving a 5-10 pick for Boeser or someone of that ilk.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

I'd potentially consider moving a 5-10 pick for Boeser or someone of that ilk.

We only need to move a 2nd.

 

[MonyontheMoney]

We only need to move a 2nd.

Weisbrod might want Wotherspoon or Poirier or someone like that thrown in too, but I'd still bite on that.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Boeser isn't as good as Hischier, Liljegrin, Patrick or my favourite Elias Pettersen.

The Flames top need is a top 4 D that can kill penalties if they trade that pick.

 

[MonyontheMoney]

Boeser isn't as good as Hischier, Liljegrin, Patrick or my favourite Elias Pettersen.

The Flames top need is a top 4 D that can kill penalties if they trade that pick.

Patrick, Hischier, Liljegren, Vilardi, and Pettersson should be the top 5 in any order IMO.

Maybe pick 5 for Boeser hypothetically would be too much, so I'll soften my stance, but if we pick 10 or later I'd think long and hard about it. Still not sure I'd do it, but it's get me thinking.

On second thought though, looking at what we gave up for Hamilton, an established young defenceman for 15 and a couple 2nds, I'd have to say anything higher than pick 10 and that would be a massive overpayment for an unestablished player like Boeser.

 

[Mr Snrub]

Patrick, Hischier, Liljegren, Vilardi, and Pettersson should be the top 5 in any order IMO.

Maybe pick 5 for Boeser hypothetically would be too much, so I'll soften my stance, but if we pick 10 or later I'd think long and hard about it. Still not sure I'd do it, but it's get me thinking.

On second thought though, looking at what we gave up for Hamilton, an established young defenceman for 15 and a couple 2nds, I'd have to say anything higher than pick 10 and that would be a massive overpayment for an unestablished player like Boeser.

You're forgetting we robbed the Bruins at gunpoint for Dougie

 

[MonyontheMoney]

You're forgetting we robbed the Bruins at gunpoint for Dougie

Yeah, but I'd still say a high pick is too much for an unproven player like Boeser.

 

[BigRangy]

You're forgetting we robbed the Bruins at gunpoint for Dougie

don't tell other teams' fans that, he's totally only worth picks

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

Yeah, but I'd still say a high pick is too much for an unproven player like Boeser.

The thing about Boeser, you watch him and you don't see an unproven player, or at least no more unproven than any draft pick. I have believed for a while now, he will be a perennial 30+ goal scorer at RW. I hate to give credit to prospects on other Canadian teams but I can't be harsh about this kid.

 

[Mr Snrub]

Yeah, but I'd still say a high pick is too much for an unproven player like Boeser.

Oh I definitely agree. I just think we as a fanbase may have a skewed perspective on what players are worth at the draft given that the Hamilton trade was incredibly tilted in our favour.

I wouldn't trade a pick higher than maybe ninth overall for Boeser, and even then I'd have to think about it, really depends on who's on the board.

 

[Calculon]

I believe the narrative now is that the Bruins robbed the Flames or something.

Bizarre how badly Hamilton is underrated.

 

[MonyontheMoney]

The thing about Boeser, you watch him and you don't see an unproven player, or at least no more unproven than any draft pick. I have believed for a while now, he will be a perennial 30+ goal scorer at RW. I hate to give credit to prospects on other Canadian teams but I can't be harsh about this kid.

I like Boeser, but I'm still not sure at what point I would rather have him, than the top prospects in this years draft.

Oh I definitely agree. I just think we as a fanbase may have a skewed perspective on what players are worth at the draft given that the Hamilton trade was incredibly tilted in our favour.

I wouldn't trade a pick higher than maybe ninth overall for Boeser, and even then I'd have to think about it, really depends on who's on the board.

I agree, too many unknowns and too much time until the draft to say with certainty what I would do. All depends on where we pick and who's available come that time.

 

[Unlimited Chequing]

They wish.

 

[Calculon]

From the main boards:

So enough with the JVR proposals?

I'm not even insulted; more relieved

 

[AgeOfBennett]

From the main boards:


I'm not even insulted; more relieved

We really don't need JVR. With Gaudreau and now Tkachuk and Ferland on the left side, we need a young RHS RW much more

 

[BigRangy]

There's only two moves that I absolutely want to happen by the end of next summer.

Brouwer lost to expansion

Oduya signed to a 2 year deal


Use the remaining cap space however you like but I feel like these two moves are no-brainers right now

 

[Lunatik]

We really don't need JVR. With Gaudreau and now Tkachuk and Ferland on the left side, we need a young RHS RW much more

IIRC, JVR can play the right side. But with his contract status he is not a good fit for the Flames.

 

[Tofveve]