This is surprising, his QO wasn't very expensive.
Same thing as it was with Dominik Simon on Pittsburgh: they don't want him getting an arbitration award more than they're comfortable with paying. It's not a QO problem, it's an arbitration problem.
Same thing as it was with Dominik Simon on Pittsburgh: they don't want him getting an arbitration award more than they're comfortable with paying. It's not a QO problem, it's an arbitration problem.
issue here most likely was not QO amount, but Arbitration eligible means risk of outsized Cap Hit -
an award just under the ~$4.5M+ walk-away threshold is what teams are worried about
Arbitration Filings - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps
Player elected Arbitration Settlements of 1 year and greater than $4,538,958, Club can walk away from the awarded salary, making the player a UFA [CBA 12.10(a)]
Player elected Arbitration Settlements of 2 years and greater than $4,538,958, Club can walk away from the second (2nd) year of the awarded salary, making the player a UFA at the end of year 1 [CBA 12.10(b)]
How is he as a C?I could still see him returning to AS despite this. At least half the teams in the league would benefit from him. Extremely versatile little player with lots of hustle and a little skill.
Agreed. This player should be qualified. Only reason not to would be there’s a longer termed deal in place.It's an Arizona is f***ing broke problem
Not ideal. But good to have around in a pinch.How is he as a C?
How is he as a C?
Agreed. Guy can play all three forward spots. He’s kind of the ideal third liner. He’s able to move up (like you say, “in a pinch”) and fill in when injuries happen. Is he decent on the PK?Not ideal. But good to have around in a pinch.
I’ve been saying since before COVID and the financial fallout that Vinny is probably a candidate to get paid just a little too much. I’ve expected him to go.Agreed. This player should be qualified. Only reason not to would be there’s a longer termed deal in place.
I wouldn’t say there’s anything “ideal” about Vinny. He works hard but he’s mostly ineffective. He’s so small and weak and doesn’t have the top end skill to make up for it. He has a little skill, though, and can occasionally flash enough to get some results. He works hard, though.Agreed. Guy can play all three forward spots. He’s kind of the ideal third liner. He’s able to move up (like you say, “in a pinch”) and fill in when injuries happen. Is he decent on the PK?
From your evaluation Vinny might be a good fit in CBJ, or on the Island.I wouldn’t say there’s anything “ideal” about Vinny. He works hard but he’s mostly ineffective. He’s so small and weak and doesn’t have the top end skill to make up for it. He has a little skill, though, and can occasionally flash enough to get some results. He works hard, though.
He’s a good fit for some rosters. Some teams can afford to have a player like this and can get good value out of him. If your top skill forwards aren’t small and weak, Vinny is a great depth player. I think on a team with a generally beefier roster composition, he’s a good, and unique little element. If he can be the lone water-bug.
John Chayka very stupidly attempted to make his entire roster around skills with zero regard for intangible elements. As a result, Arizona wasn’t able to get the most out of Vinny. They’re already sheltering small, weak, skill forwards
Not an ideal situation for Vinny or the club.
He’s not much of a PKer yet, but I could see him growing into that role. He seems well-suited to it.
Great call. I think you’re dead-on, there.From your evaluation Vinny might be a good fit in CBJ, or on the Island.