Confirmed Trade: [ARI/FLA] Anton Stralman, Vladislav Kolyachonok, and 2024 2nd round pick for 2023 7th round pick

[Djp]

Why? They are killing it right now. These are the moves a good rebuilding team make.

If picks are also attached…..arizona had picks forfeited.

 

[Dread Clawz]

If picks are also attached…..arizona had picks forfeited.

A pick will definitely be attached.

 

[SR]

I mean we packed the house as we were winning: that’s the big thing. It’s not a falsity to say that the Florida and Arizona are in very different places right now

right now Arizona is in a transition phase. I’m excited to see what BA does. But i don’t think any older player wants to be a part of the rebuild if they won’t be part of the future success.

Agreed.

 

[sxvnert]

arizona is stealing all of the kraken dump picks.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Eh, no one likes moving and I could see him preferring being ina more competitive market. Add in the limited trade protection and the Coyotes would likely move him at the deadline. Not an ideal situation for him

I can see Zito paying ARI to retain and he goes somewhere closer to home, maybe NSH or CAR.

Gudbranson is a UFA in NSH, they have Myers, Fabbro and Benning as their RD, adding Stralman with retention may work. Stralman > Benning

CAR may lose Hamilton but Stralman could slide up their 2nd and 3rd pairings. Pesce becomes their #1 RD.

 

[Dread Clawz]

arizona is stealing all of the kraken dump picks.

Good, Seattle doesnt deserve them. Seattle and Vegas shouldnt be gifted bubble teams while the 90's and 00's expansion teams had to start with much less favorable circumstances.

 

[AZviaNJ]

Stralman was OEL’s d partner on the Swedish National team and they played well together. He also has an opportunity to mentor Soderstrom a young Swedish RHD.

I wouldn’t assume he wouldn’t waive for Arizona.

 

[Heldig]

Reading between the lines, if we are keeping OEL we should try and make him happy so he plays better.

 

[rt]

If Arizona is going full rebuild would they trade Chychurn for 9th overall and a small cap dump?

I wouldn’t trade him for 1st overall.

 

[Mike Jones]

arizona is stealing all of the kraken dump picks.

Maybe Seattle didn't want Ladd. Or Lou wasn't offering enough. The NYI/Arizona trade strikes me as the kind of deal Francis would turn down because either Lou didn't offer enough or they didn't want conditions on the picks.

 

[rt]

So what does this look like, given it includes Capobianco? He’s not nothing. Is this Capo for Stralman and a 2nd? Or is it a 1st? Two 2nds? I have no idea?

 

[Kai Yo T]

Arizona finally has a GM with the cajones to pour gasoline throughout the organization and drop a lit match. New ownership seems to be supporting it.

 

[rt]

Maybe Seattle didn't want Ladd. Or Lou wasn't offering enough. The NYI/Arizona trade strikes me as the kind of deal Francis would turn down because either Lou didn't offer enough or they didn't want conditions on the picks.

The conditions on the 2nd are that Arizona gets whichever is better. Lol. Don’t thunk Franny would have an issue there. Haha.

 

[rt]

Arizona finally has a GM with the cajones to pour gasoline throughout the organization and drop a lit match. New ownership seems to be supporting it.

Bout damn time.

 

[Mike Jones]

The conditions on the 2nd are that Arizona gets whichever is better. Lol. Don’t thunk Franny would have an issue there. Haha.

oops - that's not how I read the condition. OK. But it still doesn't seem like enough.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Well, Arizona needs D. They also need draft capital, which they are starting to acquire with these moves.

If they can get Cats to send them Stralman & another draft pick, Arizona can probably trade him at deadline with retention and get even more picks.

It's how you rebuild a team & quite quickly too.

 

[rt]

Stralman has a 15 team trade list, And fat chance Arizona is on it.

Usually 10 team NTC lists are all 7 Canadiam teams, then Buffalo, Columbus, and Detroit.

I would imagine Arizona is on a lot of 15 team no-go lists. I’m guessing they’re on almost no 10 teams lists at all.

 

[rt]

oops - that's not how I read the condition. OK. But it still doesn't seem like enough.

Two 2nds and a 3rd for a guy on the back end of a front loaded deal with his bonus already paid? Lol. Uhhh…it’s pretty dang good my man!

 

[Mike Jones]

Two 2nds and a 3rd for a guy on the back end of a front loaded deal with his bonus already paid? Lol. Uhhh…it’s pretty dang good my man!

Depends on what the other deals are. Lots we don't know. This deal didn't make it to the Seattle pile for a reason.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

So what does this look like, given it includes Capobianco? He’s not nothing. Is this Capo for Stralman and a 2nd? Or is it a 1st? Two 2nds? I have no idea?

Id hope Zito retains a mill.
Brings the cash down a bit from $4.5 mil owing.
Think a 2023 2nd and depth prospect/AHL player would do.

Stralman can still play and you can retain at deadline and flip him for assets too. Or re-sign for another year as stopgap.

 

[The don godfather]

Yotes are nailing the trades so far. That Armstrong dude is on fire.

 

[rt]

Id hope Zito retains a mill.
Brings the cash down a bit from $4.5 mil owing.
Think a 2023 2nd and depth prospect/AHL player would do.

Stralman can still play and you can retain at deadline and flip him for assets too.

Doesn’t seem at all worth the trouble.

 

[Mike Jones]

So I'm assuming Stralman isn't going to be protected and Florida is trying to get rid of him for something?

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Doesn’t seem at all worth the trouble.

I don't see a 1st at all but not sure we use the 2021 2nd as we don't have a 3rd already.
That's why I think Zito retains a bit to drop the sweetener added. They already paid his million dollar signing bonus

Maybe Zito buys retention from ARI for a 2022 3rd (750-900k) or something like that? Stralman has been on east coast his whole career and his family is set up there.

Think CAR or NSH make more sense if he's retained, both closer to his home in FLA.

 

[Dread Clawz]

So what does this look like, given it includes Capobianco? He’s not nothing. Is this Capo for Stralman and a 2nd? Or is it a 1st? Two 2nds? I have no idea?

I could see it being a 2nd and a 3rd in a later draft.