Are the Toronto Maple Leafs Stanley Cup contenders?

[pb1300]

Have you seen Bertuzzis playoff stats? Educate yourself

Quite educated, thank you very much.

When your core four are a bunch of soft, non-existent duds, it does not matter what the Bertuzzi's and Domi's of the world do.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Ofcourse they are contenders... Now having said that I truly don't think they will win this year BUT I would put them in the "contender" category forsure.

I just don't think they will be able to beat all the teams they need to beat in the East in order to make it to the finals

 

[Miller Time]

Yes, but the weakest of the bunch by a wide margin.

 

[The Shadow]

Quite educated, thank you very much.

When your core four are a bunch of soft, non-existent duds, it does not matter what the Bertuzzi's and Domi's of the world do.

But that wasn’t what you were arguing. Stay on topic. The core 4 had nothing to do with you saying Bertuzzi wasn’t clutch in the playoffs

He’s done it in the AHL and NHL. Again stay
On topic and do your research


In regards to the topic:

If they could play more consistent and put it altogether yes they could win the cup.

But they can’t play at the elite level consistently and give up far too many prime offensive opportunities

Their goalie would have to stand on his head, they would need a lot of luck and their top guys need to go beast mode.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Have you seen Bertuzzis playoff stats? Educate yourself

For every goal he helped the Bruins score his lack of defensive IQ led to one or two against.

 

[authentic]

I agree. Talent is not an issue with the Leafs. From top to bottom they need to all play playoff style hockey as much as possible.

Hopefully the Florida series last year taught them that. I’ve seen the leafs play many shifts, periods and even complete games this year where, if they did that in the playoffs, they’d do well.

It’s just a question of what team is gonna show up.

They literally played games like that in the playoffs against Florida and still lost. I think people are forgetting the performance that Bobrovsky put up, all the games were intense and pretty close with the Leafs even outplaying them a few times.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

But that wasn’t what you were arguing. Stay on topic. The core 4 had nothing to do with you saying Bertuzzi wasn’t clutch in the playoffs

He’s done it in the AHL and NHL. Again stay
On topic and do your research


In regards to the topic:

If they could play more consistent and put it altogether yes they could win the cup.

But they can’t play at the elite level consistently and give up far too many prime offensive opportunities

Their goalie would have to stand on his head, they would need a lot of luck and their top guys need to go beast mode.

Bertuzzi was a PP merchant in those 7 games, he had 5 goals and 10 pts in those 7 games.
3 goals and 6 of the 10 pts came on the PP.

When 5 on 5, he was on the ice for 4 GF and 7 GA. Not sure he puts up those numbers again on a stacked PP unit in TOR.

 

[The Shadow]

For every goal he helped the Bruins score his lack of defensive IQ led to one or two against.

Defensively he seems to have be better this year without looking at corsi but just from watching the games.

 

[AvroArrow]

Are the Leafs Cup Contenders?

That's the million dollar question. I hope so but...

They remind me of the early O.V. Washington Capital teams.

Very accurate, reminds me of them as well. We need our Trotz.

 

[Spirits]

Yes or no and also if you want why?

Leafs are in year #8 of Auston Matthews and Mitch Marner. Year #6 of prized UFA signing John Tavares. Since the beginning of the 2019-20 season they have the 4th most points of any team in the NHL. Those kind of results speak for themselves, Toronto clearly has a very good hockey team. But are they capable of winning the ultimate prize?

Toronto is the best team in Canada.

 

[CokenoPepsi]

Not this season.

But it why they play the games.

 

[johnnyonthspot]

That is sad if you think that is remotely true.

I do think it is true.they just crushed Buf in Buf. Do not hate the player, hate the game!

Toronto is the best team in Canada.

No doubt they are the best team in Canada and soon will be in North America. They are peaking now set for a couple cup wins in a row!

 

[Spirits]

I do think it is true.they just crushed Buf in Buf. Do not hate the player, hate the game!


No doubt they are the best team in Canada and soon will be in North America. They are peaking now set for a couple cup wins in a row!

Arizona native carries Canada team to cup win...What a title! He will do my state proud!!

 

[pb1300]

But that wasn’t what you were arguing. Stay on topic. The core 4 had nothing to do with you saying Bertuzzi wasn’t clutch in the playoffs

He’s done it in the AHL and NHL. Again stay
On topic and do your research


In regards to the topic:

If they could play more consistent and put it altogether yes they could win the cup.

But they can’t play at the elite level consistently and give up far too many prime offensive opportunities

Their goalie would have to stand on his head, they would need a lot of luck and their top guys need to go beast mode.

Who are you tell me to stay on topic? Or what I was arguing?

Tell me where I said anything about Bertuzzi being clutch or not.

My point is, if the Leafs need to depend on those players, to get it done, they will be done early again. The Leafs win multiple rounds, and maybe a Cup, if their core four change their game in the playoffs.

 

[NMacrules]

No.

 

[TheDoldrums]

Bertuzzi was a PP merchant in those 7 games, he had 5 goals and 10 pts in those 7 games.
3 goals and 6 of the 10 pts came on the PP.

When 5 on 5, he was on the ice for 4 GF and 7 GA. Not sure he puts up those numbers again on a stacked PP unit in TOR.

Leafs PP historically disappears in the playoffs so they'd take that

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Why would you assume they did ? Weird ass comment lmao

The fact that I asked the question would tend to show

1. That I have a sense of humor and

2. That I read the post I quoted carefully...

Are you suggesting the contracts are invalid because they might have been signed under duress?

Weird, very weird...

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Have you seen Bertuzzis playoff stats? Educate yourself

1. Quite a sample size

2. And he lost in the 1st round...

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Toronto is the best team in Canada.

That would explain why Vancouver (.671) and Edmonton (.653) have a better record, and why Winnipeg is only .002 behind (.637 vs .635).

 

[Spirits]

That would explain why Vancouver (.671) and Edmonton (.653) have a better record, and why Winnipeg is only .002 behind (.637 vs .635).

Edmonton doesn't have a chance vs a real team. Vancouver is a question mark as well.

 

[PaulD]

If they were you wouldn't have to ask.

 

[SheldonJPlankton]

Arizona native carries Canada team to cup win...What a title! He will do my state proud!!

Top Mexican player ever too!!

¡Viva México!​

¡Viva Arizona!​

 

[Kaners PPGs]

This team doesn't win 2 games in the first round.

 

[Leaf Fans]

The fact that I asked the question would tend to show

1. That I have a sense of humor and

2. That I read the post I quoted carefully...


Weird, very weird...

It was. That is why I commented.

 

[Just Linda]

Their d is bad, their goaltending is mediocre, they lack depth, their coach isn't great.

Easy answer is no. Why did this get so many pages?