Why was it the right move? We're 3-6 with Jarry as our guy and he's been a large part of why we're losing games. How is keeping him, even on a short term, absolutely the right move? Are we 2-7 or 1-8 with a different starter? And even if so, does it matter at the end of the day? Last is last and at least we wouldn't have to deal with Jarry's unclutch play every other game.
I'm guessing he meant for behind-the-scenes stuff, like Jarry's injuries or his off-ice work ethic..
Said it the day of the Jarry signing and I got clowned for it, glad to see people are coming to their senses here. The best part of that route is it would have given us more flexibility to continue looking for options on the market, assessing again at UFA this upcoming summer, etc. But with the Jarry signing all of that is done. The rest of the HOF guys' careers are chained to Jagoff Jarry now.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that 1 or 2 years was not on the table. Dubas & co had a massive panic moment when other options fell through on UFA and retreated back to the original offer Hextall gave. Game, set, match - Tristan Jarry's agent.
Code name for I'm busy sniffing Mike Grier's ass all summer, so let's defer to the original offer on the table for Jarry. Doobler's like an HFBoards poster, he doesn't think the goalie position matters.
Ned and DeSmith is not a middling starter. Those are backup goalies.
You're gonna have to lose an asset to find a taker, and with the way cap space is weaponized nowadays, it's probably not gonna be cheap. So realistically, you're stuck with a guy more often than not.
Vejmelka, like Hellebuyck, was rumored to be very pricey over the summer. My guess is Dubas saw those guys as too pricey as they wouldn't allow him to pull off his EK65 masterplan.I've always hated the "we can move him if it doesn't work out" caveat to signing a player. If he sucks so much that you have to try and trade him shortly after signing, who is gonna want him?
This is not a shot at you @Empoleon8771 fwiw. Just in general. I've just heard it forever when it comes to hockey and it never seems to end up being realistic. I remember tweets from people we'd consider relatively competent about Jack Johnson's contract not being bad at all and that at like $3.25 million AAV, he'd be easily tradable.
I don't really care what his statline reads, or whether he was selected to some dork ass All-Star game years ago. Jarry can't make a big save if his life depended on it, he's had injury woes throughout his short career, he's inconsistent and volatile as MAF ever was but without the ceiling. I don't know, I'm probably being unrealistic but the Jarry deal cannot be explained away as making sense because it was dumb as shit then, and it'll be dumb as shit until it runs its course or the team buys him out.
Personally, I'd have thrown assets at the Coyotes to see if Vejmelka could be pried outta there. Maybe not realistic, ah well. It's done, Jarry's here and he'll be a headache until he's no longer in net for this team.
-edit- Very few goalies signed short term deals iirc. We weren't gonna see Jarry accept like a two year deal. It was sign him for the five years that seems customary for goalies nowadays, or try to cobble together a couple of backups and see what happens.
Spending big on a goalie is stupid imo. Either in assets or cap space. It's one thing if you have a homegrown talent like Vasi who is a perennial Vezina front runner. It's another to trade for a guy like Hellebuyck who was reported to cost a ton, or to try and sign somebody like the Panthers did with Bob.
Ned has a win against the second worst team in hockey. The only other two wins this team has are Jarry shutouts. You seriously going to tell me Ned wins that Avalanche game?
He came exactly as advertised on that front. At least he was honest about it - admitted he deferred to staff decision on Jarry (because he was too busy sending love letters to Grier).
Adin Hill got less AAV and term than Jarry somehow. After proving his mettle by helping his team win a Stanley Cup.
Yeah i despise MAF, but yes, he would be an upgrade on the current situation
It was unequivocally the wrong move. They could have spent $5m on nedjeclkovich and Hellberg and been in the same spot, with money left for another impact forward. Now we are tied down to a much worse marc andre Fleury. It was not like it wasn't known at the time either, we knew what Jarry was.
Tell me which goalie you would have signed on July first instead. Korpisalo got it 5 years at 4MM. Varlmov got 4 years at 2.75MM on a 35+ contract.
