Prospect Info: Anton Lundell (2020, #12 overall), HIFK (Liiga) - signed ELC 6/7/2021

[ChicagoBullsFan]

Territory Talk: Lundell talks rookie season, nicknames and more! | Florida Panthers

Fresh off an outstanding rookie season, Anton Lundell joins the Territory Talk podcast to talk about his first tour of the NHL, his location-based nickname, living with Aleksander Barkov and much more.Plus, co-hosts Doug Plagens and Jameson Olive break down just how exceptional the 20-year-old...

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[NORiculous]

So why the regression in production?

He seemed set for the moon but stopped at the bus stop.

 

[FinlandPanther]

So why the regression in production?

He seemed set for the moon but stopped at the bus stop.

Sophomore slump?

 

[WaitingForThatCab]

Sophomore slump, Paul Maurice's garbage 'dump and chase and create chaos' hockey, and a little of something else I can't quite identify.

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

Sophomore slump, Paul Maurice's garbage 'dump and chase and create chaos' hockey, and a little of something else I can't quite identify.

50% of it is because he needs to absorb at least some of the responsibilities left by Marchment and the other fifty is because Mo's coaching or rather lack thereof.

 

[iam76]

he's in his 2nd year.. let's see how he is next 2

 

[drktmplr12]

marchment was the ideal linemate for him.

i miss marchment

i am convinced that if yandle waived, he would still be on the team.

 

[violaswallet]

marchment was the ideal linemate for him.

i miss marchment

i am convinced that if yandle waived, he would still be on the team.

Or Giroux. With CG we would have been a 100 pt team this year. Wish we could have kept him instead of Reino

 

[PSLguy]

Plenty of excuses for his performance this season. Hope you don't have to find more for next season.

 

[Gentle Man]

Marchment and White Girls

 

[Felidae]

Didn't know where else to put this but anyone else feel like Lundell has yet to be as creative offensively as he was in his 1st season?

I understand a lot of his production had to do with the insane chemistry between Reinhart and Marchment dominating weak competition. But even in terms of the eye test, I remember him being quite the intelligent passer and he was like a puckhound out there. (Although the latter came back in the playoffs)

Not that i dont think he has those qualities anymore, but I feel like I rarely see it on display. Probably a lot to do with him actually having to carry his own line nowadays and maybe it was just a sophomore slump last year.

But I don't know, I'd like to see more and I hope he takes that next step. I'm not exactly worried, he's still only 22. But I've begun to temper my expectations on his ceiling a bit.

 

[KW]

Didn't know where else to put this but anyone else feel like Lundell has yet to be as creative offensively as he was in his 1st season?

I understand a lot of his production had to do with the insane chemistry between Reinhart and Marchment dominating weak competition. But even in terms of the eye test, I remember him being quite the intelligent passer and he was like a puckhound out there. (Although the latter came back in the playoffs)

Not that i dont think he has those qualities anymore, but I feel like I rarely see it on display. Probably a lot to do with him actually having to carry his own line nowadays and maybe it was just a sophomore slump last year.

But I don't know, I'd like to see more and I hope he takes that next step. I'm not exactly worried, he's still only 22. But I've begun to temper my expectations on his ceiling a bit.

Yeah I think a lot of it is having to carry his line. I think he’ll work it out

 

[austropanther]

Didn't know where else to put this but anyone else feel like Lundell has yet to be as creative offensively as he was in his 1st season?

I understand a lot of his production had to do with the insane chemistry between Reinhart and Marchment dominating weak competition. But even in terms of the eye test, I remember him being quite the intelligent passer and he was like a puckhound out there. (Although the latter came back in the playoffs)

Not that i dont think he has those qualities anymore, but I feel like I rarely see it on display. Probably a lot to do with him actually having to carry his own line nowadays and maybe it was just a sophomore slump last year.

But I don't know, I'd like to see more and I hope he takes that next step. I'm not exactly worried, he's still only 22. But I've begun to temper my expectations on his ceiling a bit.

Having Cousins and Sourdif with you instead of Reinhart and Marchment is a huge issue. He has never played with the two, and there is a big thing about chemistry and trust in your linemates. Feels like he just nevers dares to risk something - which is alright for a 3C, but there is a lot of creativity in him.

Having Luosto back with him when Benny is back should give him a big boost. I'd try Samo with the 2 instead of Sourdif or Cousins, plays more like Reinhart. But the 4th line seems to be a clear thing for now, therefore Cousins will stay on the 3rd.

Additionally, he might not have completely shaken off his injury from the start of the season - do we know what it was/is? I don't recall reading anything specific about it.

 

[sinDer]

I have lower expectations for Lundell now. At this point, I don’t think he can be anything better than an above average 3rd line center.

He just doesn’t have the tools to produce enough offensively to play top 6 on a regular basis. He’s pretty much average at everything if you think about it.

 

[Justlou4545]

Having Cousins and Sourdif with you instead of Reinhart and Marchment is a huge issue. He has never played with the two, and there is a big thing about chemistry and trust in your linemates. Feels like he just nevers dares to risk something - which is alright for a 3C, but there is a lot of creativity in him.

Having Luosto back with him when Benny is back should give him a big boost. I'd try Samo with the 2 instead of Sourdif or Cousins, plays more like Reinhart. But the 4th line seems to be a clear thing for now, therefore Cousins will stay on the 3rd.

Additionally, he might not have completely shaken off his injury from the start of the season - do we know what it was/is? I don't recall reading anything specific about it.

100% needs better linemates. I don't think he will ever be one to carry a line on his own ala Barkov but he will be a solid number 2c. Barkov didn't exactly show much until his third season either and he at least had skilled players with him like Hubbie at the time so I am in no rush with him. Sourdif is rookie playing a more defensively sound to try and stay in the line up and please Maurice and Cousins is well, Cousins. Once Benny slides back in it should help his line out a lot.

 

[DrMom9900]

He blows. Really disappointed in Bustdell

 

[violaswallet]

Didn't know where else to put this but anyone else feel like Lundell has yet to be as creative offensively as he was in his 1st season?

I understand a lot of his production had to do with the insane chemistry between Reinhart and Marchment dominating weak competition. But even in terms of the eye test, I remember him being quite the intelligent passer and he was like a puckhound out there. (Although the latter came back in the playoffs)

Not that i dont think he has those qualities anymore, but I feel like I rarely see it on display. Probably a lot to do with him actually having to carry his own line nowadays and maybe it was just a sophomore slump last year.

But I don't know, I'd like to see more and I hope he takes that next step. I'm not exactly worried, he's still only 22. But I've begun to temper my expectations on his ceiling a bit.

I think the answer should be: Verhaege-Lundell-Tkachuk. Luostarinen has identical numbers playing with Tkachuk.

I think the idea was that the third line is more dangerous with Lundell instead of Luostarinen, but we need the second line to get moving.

Some data: Over the past two seasons, Goat and Chucky have an even strength change percentage of 68%--which is higher than either of them without the other. Barky and Chucky have a chance percentage of 65%. Part of this is driven by Reino, but, even without Reino, GOAT-Chucky has a higher CF than Bennett-Chucky

 

[BabyBennettov]

Didn't know where else to put this but anyone else feel like Lundell has yet to be as creative offensively as he was in his 1st season?

I understand a lot of his production had to do with the insane chemistry between Reinhart and Marchment dominating weak competition. But even in terms of the eye test, I remember him being quite the intelligent passer and he was like a puckhound out there. (Although the latter came back in the playoffs)

Not that i dont think he has those qualities anymore, but I feel like I rarely see it on display. Probably a lot to do with him actually having to carry his own line nowadays and maybe it was just a sophomore slump last year.

But I don't know, I'd like to see more and I hope he takes that next step. I'm not exactly worried, he's still only 22. But I've begun to temper my expectations on his ceiling a bit.

He looked like that during pre-season, he looked amazing, shot more and all, puckhound back, everything ! I know it wasn’t always against grade-A competition…

I don’t want to put it on an injury, but he did miss a couple of days at the end of training-camp, and hasn’t looked right since.

We’ll see, jury is still out on Lundy !

But it IS a BIG year for him, he has to show it !!

The sooner the better…

 

[FinlandPanther]

He blows. Really disappointed in Bustdell

These posts are so stupid

 

[sinDer]

These posts are so stupid

What do you see in Lundell that let you believe he can be a solid top 6?

Like I said in the post you laughed at, he’s average at everything.

He’s still young, but it should be a little bit concerning if he can’t take a next step this year.

 

[FinlandPanther]

What do you see in Lundell that let you believe he can be a solid top 6?

Like I said in the post you laughed at, he’s average at everything.

He’s still young, but it should be a little bit concerning if he can’t take a next step this year.

I’m not saying it’s not concerning but we all heard about his injury before camp. This is still a young kid who made the NHL early. Wouldn’t be the first time a player struggled a couple years after making the show? Huberdeau sound familiar? Couturier took 6! Years before he became the guy he became.

 

[I am not exposed]

These posts are so stupid

Yeah even if he becomes just a solid 3rd liner, that doesn't mean he is a bust.

 

[iam76]

Swap him and loustar

 

[ShootIt]

Yeah even if he becomes just a solid 3rd liner, that doesn't mean he is a bust.

Not a bust but definitely a disappointment if he can't become a 2nd line center or an "elite" 3rd line two way player. Top 10 on a solid 3rd line guy is just poor value.

Still think the jury is out on him.

 

[Chessarmy]

He's going to need to figure out how to produce without Reinhart on his wing because we need Reino on the top line with Barky and Erod.