Player Discussion Anton Lander

[McDNicks17]

I feel like he's already a solid NHL 4th line winger who can take draws. Unfortunately the Oilers have a bit of logjam there.

I think he does a lot of things better than the average player there.

 

[Louis Cypher]

I'm thinking he should get another chance.
The rate he's scoring in the AHL, you have to think he will start scoring in the bigs.

He's got a good face-off percentage this year on the Oilers. Rumor is Chia is looking for a Faceoff guy cheap. I think we have one.

Year FW FL FO%
2016-17 79 62 56.0%
2015-16 378 315 54.5%

 

[space321]

I just don't understand why no coach except Nelson has ever given him a fair shot in the NHL. He's played 4th line for his ENTIRE career with almost ZERO offensive zone starts. For **** sake, just put in on 3C over Caggiula for like 10 games, he literally can't be worse. Caggiula needs time in the AHL but I wouldn't be surprised if he signed his contract with promised ice time...

 

[Oil Dude]

I just don't understand why no coach except Nelson has ever given him a fair shot in the NHL. He's played 4th line for his ENTIRE career with almost ZERO offensive zone starts. For **** sake, just put in on 3C over Caggiula for like 10 games, he literally can't be worse. Caggiula needs time in the AHL but I wouldn't be surprised if he signed his contract with promised ice time...

Lander is interesting , too good for the AHL but missing foot speed at the NHL level. I like having guys like him in the system because he doesn't hurt you on the ice.
Our 4th line has actually been a real good line this year and Lander has just been caught in a numbers game.

I do agree with you on Caggiula , I feel like he should be in the AHL with Pullijarvi this year.

 

[Zguy370]

I just don't understand why no coach except Nelson has ever given him a fair shot in the NHL. He's played 4th line for his ENTIRE career with almost ZERO offensive zone starts. For **** sake, just put in on 3C over Caggiula for like 10 games, he literally can't be worse. Caggiula needs time in the AHL but I wouldn't be surprised if he signed his contract with promised ice time...

Yep pretty well, as we've seen and continue to do so, this org has blown it with their preferential treatment of some players over others, as they flourish on other teams. One player that still gets my head shaking is trading Cogs, who did we trade him for btw? The type of player we exactly need, plays hard on both ends of the ice, great penalty killer, and can add some offense, 14G 14A so far, at a $2.5million salary, iron man to boot, just crazy.

 

[Zguy370]

Lander is interesting , too good for the AHL but missing foot speed at the NHL level. I like having guys like him in the system because he doesn't hurt you on the ice.
Our 4th line has actually been a real good line this year and Lander has just been caught in a numbers game.

I do agree with you on Caggiula , I feel like he should be in the AHL with Pullijarvi this year.

OK foot speed is not great, but using him as a 3C at approx., 12-13 min a game, helping with the faceoffs , penalty kill, I agree he is likely caught in a numbers game but don't believe its the only reason

 

[nexttothemoon]

Ya Caggiula hasn't been good offensively.

For all the complaining we've done about RNH, Ebs, Looch and Pouliot... Caggiula has been even worse at producing 5 on 5.

Drake has only put up .75 pts/60 at 5 on 5 which is the worst of any forward on the team and when he's on the ice the team puts up 1.49 pts/60 (also the lowest on the team)... which means he only participates in 50% of the GF when he's on the ice... poor stats for a forward.

I realize he's a rookie and a period of adjustment is obviously required but it does appear he's getting more ice time than his mediocre performance would deserve.

I would be much more in favour of seeing more of guys like Lander/Khaira in the lineup rotating with Caggiula... but it probably IS somewhat of a reward gesture to have Caggiula in the lineup as a "thank you" for him signing here.

 

[DipsyMcDoodles]

I just don't understand why no coach except Nelson has ever given him a fair shot in the NHL. He's played 4th line for his ENTIRE career with almost ZERO offensive zone starts. For **** sake, just put in on 3C over Caggiula for like 10 games, he literally can't be worse. Caggiula needs time in the AHL but I wouldn't be surprised if he signed his contract with promised ice time...

I agree. Certainly wouldn't be worse than Cags offensively and would be an upgrade defensively. Still pulling for Landy; don't think his successful stretch was as much of a fluke as it was a coach having faith in him

 

[Louis Cypher]

So which forwards are risk of being exposed?
Lander, JJ, Pitlick, Sleppy, Letestu?

Any others?

 

[Spawn]

I just don't understand why no coach except Nelson has ever given him a fair shot in the NHL. He's played 4th line for his ENTIRE career with almost ZERO offensive zone starts. For **** sake, just put in on 3C over Caggiula for like 10 games, he literally can't be worse. Caggiula needs time in the AHL but I wouldn't be surprised if he signed his contract with promised ice time...

Lander was used as the 3C to start last season. Played there for about a month. Did absolutely nothing with the time. That includes ample time on the PP as well. He's got 2 goals and 7 points in his last two seasons (83 games). Doesn't matter if you're playing 4th line. That type of pitiful production is never going to get you more offensive opportunity.

 

[MessierII]

So which forwards are risk of being exposed?
Lander, JJ, Pitlick, Sleppy, Letestu?

Any others?

Slepy isn't eligible. His first North American pro season was last year.

 

[nexttothemoon]

So which forwards are risk of being exposed?
Lander, JJ, Pitlick, Sleppy, Letestu?

Any others?

https://www.capfriendly.com/expansion-draft

That shows all the exempt players for every team.

 

[Gone]

I wish Lander would be give a real chance to succeed in a scoring role, as a winger. But alas, he will move on and meet with the same success as so many smallish forwards before him Cogliano, Gagner, Rieder.

Would it kill us to play Lander in Maroons spot for a few games. Surely nobody is suggesting he is slower than Maroon or Lucic.

 

[Oil Dude]

I wish Lander would be give a real chance to succeed in a scoring role, as a winger. But alas, he will move on and meet with the same success as so many smallish forwards before him Cogliano, Gagner, Rieder.

Would it kill us to play Lander in Maroons spot for a few games. Surely nobody is suggesting he is slower than Maroon or Lucic.

Not to be rude but Lander doesn't bring the same things guys like Maroon and Lucic bring into the line up.

Plus Cogliano and Gagner play a lot of time on the 3rd and 4th line (Gagner is a 4th line winger who is good on that PP). Reider's highest point total to date is 37....not exactly lighting it up either , despite what some might say (although he will get his points still).

 

[Perfect_Drug]

I kinda sorta want to see what Lander can do on the PP.

I get the feeling he has a lot more to show in the NHL if only he were given a chance.

His situation is a huge question mark to me. Like Patrik Thoresen. Lander will only ever be considered a 4th liner in the NHL, but I don't understand the politics as to why that is.

I envision Lander signing with a KHL team and leading the league in scoring, or going to Vegas, and getting another crack at being a 4th line PK specialist with defensive zone starts.



I'm a bit surprised Detroit hasn't acquired him.


Then again I could be very wrong. Maybe he just isn't good. I was wrong about Yak.

 

[Zaddy]

I kinda sorta want to see what Lander can do on the PP.

I get the feeling he has a lot more to show in the NHL if only he were given a chance.

His situation is a huge question mark to me. Like Patrik Thoresen. Lander will only ever be considered a 4th liner in the NHL, but I don't understand the politics as to why that is.

I envision Lander signing with a KHL team and leading the league in scoring, or going to Vegas, and getting another crack at being a 4th line PK specialist with defensive zone starts.



I'm a bit surprised Detroit hasn't acquired him.


Then again I could be very wrong. Maybe he just isn't good. I was wrong about Yak.

I don't know, I think he's definitely an NHLer and should be on our 4th line, but for some reason he is getting the short end of the stick. I don't get it. Wasn't our 4th line as well as our PK at its best when Lander was playing? Or am I misremembering that? Either way he should have a spot over Hendricks and probably Khaira and Pakman too.

 

[oobga]

Pk is sucking, team wants a faceoff guy. If only we had someone in the org already that could help with both...

 

[Kolja]

Pk is sucking, team wants a faceoff guy. If only we had someone in the org already that could help with both...

 

[Draiskull]

Pk is sucking, team wants a faceoff guy. If only we had someone in the org already that could help with both...

but his shot is not good enough for NHL.

 

[oilers4life5]

#FreeLander great on PK and in face offs.

 

[Paralyzer]

but his shot is not good enough for NHL.

it's funny to watch this guy in the AHL. He's like a superstar down there. Can do it all, but as soon as he comes up, he's just a 4th line plug. Just makes no sense.

37 points in 22 games, 18 of them are goals. Something is not right

 

[Gone]

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I kinda sorta want to see what Lander can do on the PP.

I get the feeling he has a lot more to show in the NHL if only he were given a chance.

His situation is a huge question mark to me. Like Patrik Thoresen. Lander will only ever be considered a 4th liner in the NHL, but I don't understand the politics as to why that is.

I envision Lander signing with a KHL team and leading the league in scoring, or going to Vegas, and getting another crack at being a 4th line PK specialist with defensive zone starts.



I'm a bit surprised Detroit hasn't acquired him.


Then again I could be very wrong. Maybe he just isn't good. I was wrong about Yak.

I am guessing Lander would perform just as well on the PP as say DC. But one is given all the rope in the world. Lander needs another chance.

Detroit will get him before the trade deadline. It's just the kind of move they make.

 

[Gone]

I don't know, I think he's definitely an NHLer and should be on our 4th line, but for some reason he is getting the short end of the stick. I don't get it. Wasn't our 4th line as well as our PK at its best when Lander was playing? Or am I misremembering that? Either way he should have a spot over Hendricks and probably Khaira and Pakman too.

It was and he looked way better than Hendricks to my eye. The one negative on Lander seems to be his foot speed, but anyone bringing that up needs to meet Lucic, Maroon and especially Hendricks.

 

[Stoneman89]

Let's see.

Lander has a great difficulty producing offence at the NHL level. But he has proven he is very good on the PK, solid on faceoffs, blocks shots, good in his own end, and can and will play physical every time he's in the lineup.

Seems to me we have a whole batch of guys that have difficulty producing offence, but do next to none of the other stuff, but they all have extremely long ropes.

 

[Digger12]

The problem with Lander isn't just his foot speed, it's what seems like a complete inability to get his shot on net this year. I know he barely got 4th line minutes when he was up with the big club, but 12 shots on goal in 22 games isn't nearly good enough. To me it's an indicator of not only a lack of skating to get in shooting position, but an inability to get any sort of offensive zone presence. Even fellow 4th liners like Khaira, Hendricks and Pakarinen are averaging at least 1 shot on goal/game.

Too many empty shifts from Lander where he just kinda putters around, not doing much of anything. No hitting, no shooting, just filling a jersey. Then he goes to the minors and is completely dominant, which is bloody infuriating.

Not sure if there's anything he can do at this point to (re)gain McLellan's trust, to me it seems like McLellan's moved on from Lander. I think if Lander has any hope of becoming an NHL regular, it'll have to be with another team.