Antoine Griezmann appreciation thread

[Adonis Creed]

Pedro material. Not good enough for midtable BPL honestly.

 

[Deficient Mode]

Pedro material. Not good enough for midtable BPL honestly.

 

[Plato]

Not sure where to begin with some of the comments in this thread.
Sincerely hope some of these were sarcastic.

 

[cgf]

If he was good enough player to play in the EPL, then why isn't he?

 

[Ceremony]

I was entirely serious.

The actual state of that. Definitely not.

 

[cgf]

Truly a poor man's Kampl.

 

[Live in the Now]

If he was good enough player to play in the EPL, then why isn't he?

Exactly, he's trash. Only 16 goals in 26 games. If he was good enough to play in the EPL he'd have at least 20.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

If it's any consolation he had a haircut.

Anyone thinking he is not good enough for the epl haven't seen him play.

 

[Adonis Creed]

Exactly, he's trash. Only 16 goals in 26 games. If he was good enough to play in the EPL he'd have at least 20.

Pedro had a lot...hes trash...

so many trash team in Liga...no money no candy

 

[Halladay]

Giroud is better! So is Welbeck!

 

[Live in the Now]

Pedro had a lot...hes trash...

so many trash team in Liga...no money no candy

Griezmann is the best player on his team and Pedro never was. Frankly you couldn't be more wrong.

 

[Halladay]

He is the leading scorer on probably the 3rd best team in the World...

 

[Cassano]

Griezmann is the best player on his team and Pedro never was. Frankly you couldn't be more wrong.

To be fair Pedro played under the best teams ever. Kind of hard to put him on that pedestal.

 

[Deficient Mode]

 

[Vasilevskiy]

Pedro had a lot...hes trash...

so many trash team in Liga...no money no candy

There's a point where I don't know which posts are trolling and which ones are actually serious

 

[Vasilevskiy]

A tap in. Definetely average player.

 

[Panteras]

the only way he can be considered great is if he is within a 100mile radius of Ben Arfa

 

[Deficient Mode]

To be fair Pedro played under the best teams ever. Kind of hard to put him on that pedestal.

And was an important contributor to those best teams ever. But no, let's judge him by whether he can succeed in another league.

 

[Evilo]

And was an important contributor to those best teams ever. But no, let's judge him by whether he can succeed in another league.

On a team that shows nothing.

 

[les Habs]

Is this thread really necessary?

I take this back. This thread has been thoroughly enjoyable.

 

[YNWA14]

And was an important contributor to those best teams ever. But no, let's judge him by whether he can succeed in another league.

If a player is really considered to be good, very good or even great shouldn't that quality show through regardless of the team or league? Maybe not to the height that it may show if they are in a "perfect" situation, but it should still show.

I'm not commenting on Pedro one way or another, but certainly being a part of a very special team like that can make most players look better than they are.

 

[Deficient Mode]

If a player is really considered to be good, very good or even great shouldn't that quality show through regardless of the team or league? Maybe not to the height that it may show if they are in a "perfect" situation, but it should still show.

I'm not commenting on Pedro one way or another, but certainly being a part of a very special team like that can make most players look better than they are.

Nope. The ability of any player to shine depends on finding the right context. Even Messi would struggle somewhat playing for a low table EPL side with teammates who are out of sync with him and not able to support him properly. (Not saying that that's what happened at Chelsea this year). Personally I value more highly players who can keep up with world class and all-time greats and be a cog in a great team. Pedro is seriously underrated by many fans.

Griezmann is a very good player, but I don't think he would excel on any team unequivocally. I also don't buy the "look how much he scores on a low-scoring team like Atletico; imagine what he'd do at Real or Barca" argument. I can tell watching his goals that a lot of them are produced by collective movements that have been thoroughly practiced and worked on in advance, and Atletico as a whole is well set-up to give Griezmann chances.

 

[Cassano]

Griezmann is a very good player, but I don't think he would excel on any team unequivocally. I also don't buy the "look how much he scores on a low-scoring team like Atletico; imagine what he'd do at Real or Barca" argument. I can tell watching his goals that a lot of them are produced by collective movements that have been thoroughly practiced and worked on in advance, and Atletico as a whole is well set-up to give Griezmann chances.

Look at Fabregas at Barca vs. Arsenal for comparision.

He was Europe's top chance creator for 3 years on a team that was not that deep.

He was a disappointment at Barca.

 

[Deficient Mode]

Look at Fabregas at Barca vs. Arsenal for comparision.

He was Europe's top chance creator for 3 years on a team that was not that deep.

He was a disappointment at Barca.

Yeah, and it wasn't that surprising that he didn't do well at Barca considering he's not as good in tight spaces as Barca's other midfielders, a weakness that isn't nearly as severe in the EPL. Different players do well in different contexts.

 

[zamo86*]

Griezmann is the best player on his team and Pedro never was. Frankly you couldn't be more wrong.

So I guess goalkeepers arent players?