dlawong
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You underestimate Hamonic and you overestimate Duchene. With this offer, one would think we're going to get Sakic or Forsberg in return. It's not the case. The value of defenseman (the good one) is much higher than you think. Hamonic for Duchene it's quite enough! And if you have to add, you don't offer a package of Nelson, our 2nd best prospect after Barzal (Beauvillier) and a 1st on top of that! Completely absurd. If you have to add, go with Strome. We can than ask for a lesser d-man like Wiercioch for us to keep a good depth on the blue line. Exemple Hamonic + Strome for Duchene + Wiercoch. We receive the best forward, Colorado receive the best defenseman. Not sure Colorado would be that interested because they probably need more a LD than a RD. For us, the lost of Hamonic can provide a huge hole, much more than what people think I believe.
Just to give you an idea how good defenseman are highly value, Mike Bossy recently told on television he met Steve Yzerman during the all star break. He asked to him how his team was going. Yzerman replied that his team had difficulties in front of the net and on defense. And he add, it's impossible to get better on defense because the best defenseman are not available for a trade. So if the Isles decided that Hamonic is available, you can bet that his value will be much higher than you think.
A D roster player has to go and it may not have to be Hammer if the team values him that much. You do realize Isles can't protect that many D and WILL LOSE someone to Vegas for nothing. They have to make a decision somehow between Hammer, CDH and Hickey because they are going to keep Leddy and JB and they may even choose to keep only 3 D if they want to protect 5 F. The expansion draft has that kind of impact. In any other year you would not trade a roster D but this year is different. If you can somehow use that D and get a really good 2nd line center back why not do it? Carter was a 2nd line center who was one of the key reasons that won 2 SC for the Kings. Now you may also have to consider which Isles forward is going to protect as well - if 4 then you are going to likely lose one of Lee/Nelson/Strome as well because they will have to protect JT and AL and likely Bailey the way he has played this year. The question is not whether they should make a deal but with which team and if Avs have the best players available. The problem is that a lot of teams are still hunting for a playoff spot and likely will not trade their top 6 and top 2 D but only prospect/picks and maybe a walking UFA and the pick/prospect likely will not help Isles in any way soon.
Also have you ever watched MD in the Olympics and this past World Cup? He did not get outshone by JT in those tournaments. He played just as well. He is not playing well this year likely due to AVs team's direction toward a rebuild. He is a total different player when he has a chance to win. The talent has not declined but maybe his motivation has playing for a losing team. Do not forget that he also beat JT out for the Calder award. Also like to remind that Isles have easier travel schedules (as most Eastern teams do) and not playing in a mile high city which can take a toll on the athletes over the season.
If honestly I think Isles can beat Pens, Caps or Habs in a 7 game playoff series, I will keep all important roster players and do not make a move. However their chance of making the playoff is not all that high and I can't think that with the current roster they can measure up to a power house like Pens this year. No do not expect them to win the Cup this year as they still have too many areas need improvement - a consistent PP production, face-off win %. goal production and good clean fast transitions. Also they are now an average speed team without enough top 6 who can put pucks in the net. Even you have the best coach behind the net, it will be realistically tough to go past 2 rounds even if they make the playoff.
The trade is for next season, opportunity to improve the team and asset management. However I will not give up on Barzal and Bellows too soon and maybe even some of their D depth. Avs need desperately to improve their D so very highly unlikely they will trade any of their young D with top potentials. It does not serve their purpose to make such deal. If they prefer LD to RD then it got to be either CDH or Hickey who has adequate NHL experience. It is more likely that Avs will not be happy with what Isles is offering and it is true that they are not desperate to make a deal any time soon and there is no need for them to sell their 2nd best forward short. i am not an Avs fan but I can see their point.
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