Andreas Athanasiou

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

For sure...at that price. I thought it was Anaheim asking for Tatar + 16, and Detroit not even bothering to counter, which was the part that disappointed me. I would have gladly pulled the trigger for a second rounder (with another sweetener if need be) instead of a first, but maybe the Ducks insisted on no alternatives. No real way of knowing.

Yeah, the last I remember about it was Anaheim wanted Tatar + 16, Detroit didn't want to do that... and Buffalo was there with... 9OA and negotiating? So Detroit couldn't really do anything to push back against the price. It was more that Anaheim had several suitors so they didn't have to take less than they wanted.

 

[obey86]

Didn’t like Fowler then, don’t like him now

 

[Hammettf2b]

The Ducks were demanding Mantha iirc

 

[obey86]

The Ducks were demanding Mantha iirc

Yeah, just read an article that the speculation was Mantha and the 16th pick. Hell no in hindsight. That's the pick that turned into Cholowski and also allowed us to take Hronek after trading down.

 

[Gniwder]

Yeah, the last I remember about it was Anaheim wanted Tatar + 16, Detroit didn't want to do that... and Buffalo was there with... 9OA and negotiating? So Detroit couldn't really do anything to push back against the price. It was more that Anaheim had several suitors so they didn't have to take less than they wanted.

Wasn't the whole point to avoid losing a defenseman in the expansion draft? In the end they gave away Shea Theodore in exchange for the Ducks taking Stoner. They would have been better off trading for a forward or protecting 4 d-men.

 

[Invictus12]

A few years ago there were rumors floated about a DET/ANA deal involving Tatar and Fowler. I was all aboard that train at the time, but obviously nothing materialized.

As tssweeney already mentioned, the ask was higher than that. Degensemen don't come cheap in trades so we'll almost always be trading for risk or downgrade on some other position. However, if we give it a year or two and won't be able to find anything in free agency, and our other wingers and forwards pan out, we might be in the position to do pull a trigger. Overpaying but, still...

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

The Ducks were demanding Mantha iirc

Yeah i believe they wanted Mantha+2nd for Fowlers rights, If i'm not mistaken.

 

[jkutswings]

Yeah i believe they wanted Mantha+2nd for Fowlers rights, If i'm not mistaken.

I'd do that deal today, but I'm probably the only one that has such a pessimistic view on Mantha while liking Fowler.

 

[Hen Kolland]

I'd do that deal today, but I'm probably the only one that has such a pessimistic view on Mantha while liking Fowler.

I think you could have said “I’m the only one that likes Fowler”

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

I think you could have said “I’m the only one that likes Fowler”

Eh, naw. I like/d Fowler too.

 

[Marky9er]

Is this a Fowler or Mantha thread? I came in to admit that as a Guelph fan my most hated OHL teams were always London and Barrie and so my disposition towards AA was biased from the beginning....but this must be the wrong place, nevermind.

 

[jkutswings]

I would still trade AA for a top pairing defenseman. That doesn't diminish his accomplishments this season, or my intrigue for what he does next year. But I value a good blue line so highly that I'd trade any forward not named Larkin to get it.

 

[Shaman464]

I would still trade AA for a top pairing defenseman. That doesn't diminish his accomplishments this season, or my intrigue for what he does next year. But I value a good blue line so highly that I'd trade any forward not named Larkin to get it.

I'm on the same page. He's a good winger, but, would trade him without regret for a #2 d-man.

 

[Flowah]

I'm on the same page. He's a good winger, but, would trade him without regret for a #2 d-man.

I hope *no one* comes in to suggest that if you want to trade AA for a #2 d-man that it means you think AA is trash because #2 d-men can be had for trash players.

 

[Shaman464]

I hope *no one* comes in to suggest that if you want to trade AA for a #2 d-man that it means you think AA is trash because #2 d-men can be had for trash players.

Haha, I hope not either. And I admit, that I am eating crow this season, because AA's work ethic has been much better, and its shown on the stat sheet.

 

[jkutswings]

I think I'd rather keep AA and offer sheet Werenski if we are being honest.

Tampa Bay is already up 3-0 after 20 minutes in Game 1. Maybe a first round curbstomp would be helpful in convincing him to sign that offer sheet.

 

[Hen Kolland]

Tampa Bay is already up 3-0 after 20 minutes in Game 1. Maybe a first round curbstomp would be helpful in convincing him to sign that offer sheet.

Don’t talk dirty to me

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Tampa Bay is already up 3-0 after 20 minutes in Game 1. Maybe a first round curbstomp would be helpful in convincing him to sign that offer sheet.

Offer sheeting Columbus is kind of pointless. We all know their two highest paid guys are going into free agency, they can match anything if it really comes to that, they are going to have tons of cap space.

 

[jkutswings]

Well that stunk royally...