Proposal: Anaheim Ducks - New Jersey Devils

[lukeleim]

New Jersey Devils
John Gibson
Frank Vatrano

Anaheim Ducks
Ondrej Palat
Alexander Holtz
Vitek Vanecek

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New Jersey Devils
John Gibson
Frank Vatrano

Anaheim Ducks
Ondrej Palat
Alexander Holtz
Vitek Vanecek

Deal

 

[TBF1972]

New Jersey Devils
John Gibson
Frank Vatrano

Anaheim Ducks
Ondrej Palat
Alexander Holtz
Vitek Vanecek

trading a big money contract to new jersey is not easy to do right now. the devils can't take in a big surplus of cap hit with term. upgrading this season to risk not having enough cap space to resign mercer (summer 24), l.hughes, holtz (both summer 25) or nemec (summer 26) doesn't make sense at all. palat going the other way would obviously balance the salaries, but he has a nmc this and next season. so he can veto any trade attempt.

 

[MMC]

No, Holtz is a solid piece but not good enough to sell off Gibson and Vatrano while also taking back two dumps

 

[Rasp]

Big no. You need to add a at least another 1st more for both Vatrino and Gibson and that is before the cap dumps

 

[TBF1972]

Big no. You need to add a at least another 1st more for both Vatrino and Gibson and that is before the cap dumps

than the devils have zero interest

 

[Play]

Big no. You need to add a at least another 1st more for both Vatrino and Gibson and that is before the cap dumps

Then the Devils hang up the phone

 

[WhatTheDuck]

I don't see any reason for the Ducks to consider this, pretty low chance of it ever helping to improve their club.

 

[Puckclektr]

Ducks should’ve traded Gibson 4-5 years ago. I’m not saying he isn’t worth what you want to your team, but from where I see it, Gibson hasn’t put up really good numbers in a half a decade. I get the team hasn’t been the greatest. Not to mention he misses lots of games due to injury and that isn’t reliable with a heavy workload in the playoffs.
No interest if Holtz is involved.

 

[trick9]

Palat has NMC.

It's a bad deal for the Ducks either way. Gibson for some reason seems to have positive value still while Vanecek and Palat are firmly on the negative side.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Palat is just a dealbreaker in this trade. 6M caphit with another 3 years of underperforming offense at 32 years old. Woof.

 

[dracom]

Ducks should’ve traded Gibson 4-5 years ago. I’m not saying he isn’t worth what you want to your team, but from where I see it, Gibson hasn’t put up really good numbers in a half a decade. I get the team hasn’t been the greatest. Not to mention he misses lots of games due to injury and that isn’t reliable with a heavy workload in the playoffs.
No interest if Holtz is involved.

ducks had no reason to trade him 4-5 years ago since we had no other goalie to replace him. gibson has played 50+ games as a starter over the last 7 years, only outlier is the year covid ended the season early with 35 games. that's about average as other starters. this lie that he misses a lot of games keeps being spread for no reason.

if people could please stop asking for Gibson then telling us we should just take whatever scraps for him because he's awful and always hurt that'd be great.

 

[Djp]

trading a big money contract to new jersey is not easy to do right now. the devils can't take in a big surplus of cap hit with term. upgrading this season to risk not having enough cap space to resign mercer (summer 24), l.hughes, holtz (both summer 25) or nemec (summer 26) doesn't make sense at all. palat going the other way would obviously balance the salaries, but he has a nmc this and next season. so he can veto any trade attempt.

Palat balances that out.

 

[Puckclektr]

ducks had no reason to trade him 4-5 years ago since we had no other goalie to replace him. gibson has played 50+ games as a starter over the last 7 years, only outlier is the year covid ended the season early with 35 games. that's about average as other starters. this lie that he misses a lot of games keeps being spread for no reason.

if people could please stop asking for Gibson then telling us we should just take whatever scraps for him because he's awful and always hurt that'd be great.

It’s not a lie that he misses lots of games. He’s been in my keeper league since he came into the league and has let me down more than any other player. That’s guy is DTD regularly.
I also never said he was awful. He just isn’t the goalie he was five years ago. And the only reason people are offering scraps is that he isn’t the goalie he was that long ago and it isn’t really worth elite assets to essentially upgrade a little. He may be worth more to Anaheim.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Palat balances that out.

And what is NJD giving up in assets / sweeteners to dump Palat?

 

[cwede]

Verbeek being too generous to his old team? i doubt it

Holtz a good get,
but package needs more upside youth,
or Ducks can sell those 2 guys separately and bring back more

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Palat is just a dealbreaker in this trade. 6M caphit with another 3 years of underperforming offense at 32 years old. Woof.

I’m sure the Devils are eager to add Gibson’s 6.4 million dollar cap hit for 3 more years for a barely .900 goalie.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Both say no

 

[NjdevilfanJim]

New Jersey Devils
John Gibson
Frank Vatrano

Anaheim Ducks
Ondrej Palat
Alexander Holtz
Vitek Vanecek

Devils pass ...See what we have in Daws ....Palat when healthy contributes and Holtz is progressing nicely as young player....

Verbeek being too generous to his old team? i doubt it

Holtz a good get,
but package needs more upside youth,
or Ducks can sell those 2 guys separately and bring back more

Have at it I don't blame you cash in ....Imo both Ducks not worth Holtz

Devils pass ...See what we have in Daws ....Palat when healthy contributes and Holtz is progressing nicely as young player....


Have at it I don't blame you cash in ....Imo both Ducks not worth Holtz

Devils need to ride year out and see what happens it's just doesn't seem like it's our year too much going wrong

 

[Gliff]

Why do the Ducks do this again? I'm just curious, what is the logic?

To get out of Gibson's contract (lets assume they want to in this scenario)?
Not taking into account Holtz they save a grand total of 4 mil in cash over the life of the contracts and a grand total of 400k in cap per year.

Vatrano would probably fetch a 1st by himself at the moment. Especially if the Ducks trade him at 50% at the deadline this year with another year on his contract.

Gibson for Holtz is fine although I expect the Ducks would want more. But also taking back 2 cap dumps in the process..... cmon.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

I’m sure the Devils are eager to add Gibson’s 6.4 million dollar cap hit for 3 more years for a barely .900 goalie.

Did you not see the part where you dump both Palat and Vanecek? This is god awful for the Ducks taking on those two capdumps. The NJD come out way ahead getting an actual goalie rather than the scrubs they currently have in net.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Seems meh for Anaheim, could get more moving each piece separate and taking back cap m.

 

[Force951]

It’s not a lie that he misses lots of games. He’s been in my keeper league since he came into the league and has let me down more than any other player. That’s guy is DTD regularly.
I also never said he was awful. He just isn’t the goalie he was five years ago. And the only reason people are offering scraps is that he isn’t the goalie he was that long ago and it isn’t really worth elite assets to essentially upgrade a little. He may be worth more to Anaheim.

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Hey, no fair using facts in an argument around here...

(#6 in minutes played as well)

 

[TBF1972]

Palat balances that out.

that's what i wrote as well. if he would waive we don't know.