Confirmed Trade: [ANA/NJD] Vatanen & conditional 3rd for Henrique, Blandisi & a 3rd

[Edmonton East]

Shero was a great parting gift by Lou.

...? I don't think Shero was a gift from Lou.

 

[Roland of Gilead]

And he is a dumpster fire in his own zone.

No he isn't, that's full of crap. He is good in both ends.

 

[135ace]

Yea, I've been pumping Rykov's tires for a while now so hope he works out. Personally, the only potential top pairing guy (down the road) on the team right now is Butcher, and that's assuming you pair him with a better size defensive rock. I think Sevs and Santini realistically top out as middle pairing guys, which I'm perfectly happy with.

We certainly don't have a potential 1D, but I do think that we have a few guys who could become a good number 2 and excellent number 3's. Rykov is definitely the biggest wild card. Seems like he definitely has top pairing potential, but we have to get him over here first.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

He can be worth it with a change of scenery but honestly even before injury I grew keen to just move him. He got complacent in Anaheim and lacked the drive he had as a precontract extension player. Maybe a new team will motivate him bit he does still seem to be recovering from injury.

You just described Henrique minus the injury history.

 

[HanSolo]

so according to this thread we're getting a mid pairing, unmotivated and injured player who has been **** for the last 2 seasons... terrific

But if he can get it going he's a solid defender with good offensive instincts. If he can ever get his shot back he's got a great cannon from the point.

It's in NJ's hands if they can cultivate his game back. Maybe Anaheim gave up on him with the rise of Montour.

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

Maybe this changes in the future but man is this a great trade. Both teams dealing from a position of strength to address a weakness, just don't see that a lot. I wasn't too excited about the idea of Henrique, but I think that was mostly greed, he's a really great third center who can move around the lineup.

 

[96]

Ducks win this trade rather easily... imo

 

[CraigsList]

Maybe this changes in the future but man is this a great trade. Both teams dealing from a position of strength to address a weakness, just don't see that a lot. I wasn't too excited about the idea of Henrique, but I think that was mostly greed, he's a really great third center who can move around the lineup.

I see him as a stopgap until Sam Steel comes along. Trading Vatanen was good because you guys are very strong in the defensive position already.

I like trades that benefit both teams.

 

[nbducksfan19]

I think this is a great deal for both teams, potentially.

Vatanen has not been great the last year and a half. For a while, I thought he could surpass Fowler, but he never took the next step. With that being said, he is a good 3/4 Dman. I think his game is misunderstood - his offense is good, but not as good as people think. However, he is much better defensively and on the PK than he gets credit for. I have a feeling the East and Devils team may fit his game a bit better, and some of his better hockey may still be ahead of him. The reality is that the ducks are not much worse on D with him out of the lienup, so they were in a good position to add offense without subtracting much.

I would have loved to move Vatanen for a more exciting offensive piece, but came to terms with the fact that was unlikely due to the less than stellar hockey he has played over the past year.

 

[Rebels57]

Devils actually have an elite defense now damn

I mean..not really. They still don't have a #1 defensemen.

I like the trade a lot though for both teams.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Vatanen and Santini over who is the biggest black hole of shot suppression

 

[eFFeRR]

This is a deal that works great for both sides, so hard to call a winner and a loser.. but.. I do like Adam Henrique better then Sami Vatanen, so if I had to pick a winner I'll give the edge to the Ducks here.

 

[HanSolo]

You just described Henrique minus the injury history.

Seems like a pretty good deal then haha.
Honestly if all we got is forward depth that can provide some good defense then I'm satisfied.

 

[Edmonton East]

Vatanen and Santini over who is the biggest black hole of shot suppression

How much crow are you going to eat once Santini's numbers improve significantly after finally not playing against the top 2 lines 100% of the time?

 

[Lou is God]

...? I don't think Shero was a gift from Lou.

End of an era: For 27 years, Lou Lamoriello ran the Devils his way | Politi

That changed on Monday, and despite his comments to the contrary, this was not Lamoriello's call. He might have picked Ray Shero as the man who will replace him as general manager, but owners Josh Harris and David Blitzer made it clear that they wanted a new voice in personnel.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

I like Henrique, but Vatanen is a commodity all teams are trying to add. A certified top 2 pairing D man on a contending team. You have to give up something to get something in return. Going to trust Shero here. And the Ducks needed a Center badly with their injuries. They filled a void. This is a good old fashioned good trade that may work out for both teams. But I sure like this long term for the Devils. Shero is doing it again. No complaints if I am a Devils fan.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

Seems like a pretty good deal then haha.
Honestly if all we got is forward depth that can provide some good defense then I'm satisfied.

It's maddening with Henrique too because when he's engaged he's physical and all over opponents. He's not a playmaker at all, but if he plays with a good distributor he's a good finisher.

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

Solid deal, although I think the Devils slightly overpaid. Or I'm just overvaluing Henrique?

I've wanted Vatanen for years on the Rangers, damn.


Win-win trade for both sides.

Wasn't Blandisi real promising?

 

[Filthy Dangles]

How much crow are you going to eat once Santini's numbers improve significantly after finally not playing against the top 2 lines 100% of the time?

What is your definition of 'improve significantly'? He's literally the worst shot suppressor and possession driver in the league right now, by far. He could 'improve significantly' and still be a liability/net negative.

I will gladly eat crow if it's on the menu, i.e he starts positively driving possession and suppressing shots relatively.

 

[Dale Best Goalie]

Severson is good 2d Santini is a 2 vats and will are good 3s Greene is a 3

5 top-3 dmen = elite defense

lol wut

 

[Jerzey Devil]

He is not a big dude but plays a big dude game. Think Marchands game, NOT the goal scorer or point producer Marchand but that pesky little man.

Damn you’re right he’s only 6’0. I don’t know why I thought he was bigger. I guess it is his style that makes him seem bigger.

 

[WHISTLERNATE]

Good deal for both teams. A year ago I would never have thought that the Ducks would lose both Theodore and Vatanen. I thought those guys would be big pieces of the next core.

 

[Nico the Draft Riser]

Vatanen and Santini over who is the biggest black hole of shot suppression

While i disagree with this - it is actually hilarious, that picture

 

[Breakers]

No he isn't, that's full of crap. He is good in both ends.

Well numbers say otherwise.
And so does the eye test

 

[Dale Best Goalie]

Ducks POV:
We have badly needed a high end 3C for awhile. The experiment with Rakell was doomed when the injuries piled up. If this team ever gets healthy the Ducks now have that piece they've needed for years. A D trade was inevitable and Montours emergence pretty much meant the end for Sami, who will probably do very well in the east.

Henrique is not a "high end 3C"

He's much better at wing, that's the consensus