RebuildinVan
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Proposal: ANA Mega Rebuild: MTL/TOR/COL/CHI/NYR/PIT/WPG
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DesertPenguin
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Yeah thats "spit out your coffee" bad for PIT, which I nearly did.
We shed JJ, get the ghost of Getzlaf, and all it costs us is a goalie downgrade and are our two top, nearly ready prospects. YUCK.
If you think Gru is a downgrade on Murray I would like to remind you its not 2017 anymore. But you seem to think Getz is also in 2022 so I would stay away from the time machine
I traded an entire team for teenagers lmao so I would say we should upgrade it to 7 too many
Halla
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too little from OP, then you gave too much
Manson isnt getting pick 15+Liljegren+Johnsson when there are a bunch of guys available in UFA (Tanev,Hamonic,Brodie etc)
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Spazkat
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I dont know where to start with this mess ...
Gibson and Rakell are not going out together for a giant pile of "things the Avs dont need/want" and a very late 1st.
Especially when one of those pieces is Timmins with his disastrous concussion history. He's managed to play 78 total hockey games in any league since he was drafted in 2017. A grand total of 2 NHL games before going out yet again with another concussion. Nobody is paying a lot to take on that risk, let alone him being valuable enough to be the centerpiece of a Lindholm trade
Domi as a 1c? Unless they're planning to tank for the foreseeable future, that's a no go
The leafs trade? Give up a cost controlled top 4 RD to roll the dice with an unproven maybe and taking a cap dump back on top of it? Big hell no to that one. I did get as laugh out of OP putting Johnsson as a top 6 LW tho.
Its kind of sad that after all those trades, I believe ANA is actually worse off than when they started.
Gibson and Rakell are not going out together for a giant pile of "things the Avs dont need/want" and a very late 1st.
Especially when one of those pieces is Timmins with his disastrous concussion history. He's managed to play 78 total hockey games in any league since he was drafted in 2017. A grand total of 2 NHL games before going out yet again with another concussion. Nobody is paying a lot to take on that risk, let alone him being valuable enough to be the centerpiece of a Lindholm trade
Domi as a 1c? Unless they're planning to tank for the foreseeable future, that's a no go
The leafs trade? Give up a cost controlled top 4 RD to roll the dice with an unproven maybe and taking a cap dump back on top of it? Big hell no to that one. I did get as laugh out of OP putting Johnsson as a top 6 LW tho.
Its kind of sad that after all those trades, I believe ANA is actually worse off than when they started.
Other than the Drouin trade Bergevin has come out on top in most of his trades. I’m pretty darn convinced he’d hang up the phone if you’re offering a 40 point w for a 50-60 point C who’s 4 years younger
Ana 2nd for Geo is high enough for a yes
conventional wisdom is 2nd + depending on slotting and I've advocated getting a 2nd from somewhere and going to DET w/that + Geo for the DET 2nd.
But ANA on its own is solid yes.
congrats
Its kind of weird for a guy who's team has been a non factor for a decade a "success" in any way. MTL has been irrelevant for a long long time and a big reason of that is that they have been very good at tricking their fans into thinking that things will some how be different moving forward
TheBloodyNine
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Goalies are weird man. Trade values are always all over the place. I think its a pretty solid deal but I respect if you disagree. Its not like this is the most serious thread ever
Lol. Ok bud. Your “Bergevin is crazy” argument and this little rant is so convincing. Clearly Montreal should accept the older, less effective player in the trade because....reasons
Spazkat
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Rebuild implies getting better. And as I mentioned - any team using Max freaking Domi as a 1C is destined for a perma tank
It also implies that you trade off established things for better things - I didnt see any argument about my player valuation
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The stat line I’ve been reading seems to go against this . Your gm is one of the few he hasn’t fleeced yet . Maybe he’s next
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This is more like the Ducks going full re - something else.
You are sorely mistaken if you think this series of moves puts the Ducks in a better position. A rebuilding team should be looking to add pieces like Gibson, not trade them for a bunch of crap.
There is a really bad misconception around here that a team needs to go complete full tank in order to get better. Trading all your best players for a bunch of non elite prospects and late 1sts has a very low chance of making a team better at any point. Anaheim doesn't need to get any worse in order to get better, and they are not hurting for young depth whatsoever. They need more high end core pieces, so trading off the few that they have for all this stuff is completely ass backwards.
Teams like Toronto and Edmonton are struggling to take the final step because they don't have the goaltending or strong defensive pieces like Lindholm and Silfverberg to provide balance to their young offensive core. Anaheim is going to add young offensive talent over the next couple years (Zegras + early picks this year and almost surely at least next), they can get back to competing in the Pacific so much quicker by building from the net out rather than this full demolition.
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