Proposal: Alzner for Zaitsev.

[ole ole]

Both stink playing D

The way i see it is While Zaitsev is younger but his contract is a lot worst and longer..Both stink playing D.

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[Albus Dumbledore]

at the very worst zaitsev can actually play even if its at a #5 level, alzner on the ther hand...

 

[sansabri]

Doesn't make sense.

 

[Hockey Stick]

Montreal should add term like that, no thanks

 

[Empoleon8771]

Ouch why did the Leafs give Zaitsev a 7 year deal after 1 okay season at age 25? I don't even see any potential upside by making that kind of commitment, unless you thought that a 25 year old player would continue improving.

 

[ole ole]

Montreal should add term like that, no thanks

Ya true my bad. The Leafs should at least throw in a later draft pick.

 

[Tarmore]

Both stink playing D

The way i see it is While Zaitsev is younger but his contract is a lot worst and longer..Both stink playing D.

Another bait thread... Just no, from the Leafs

 

[DoobieDubas]

Ouch why did the Leafs give Zaitsev a 7 year deal after 1 okay season at age 25? I don't even see any potential upside by making that kind of commitment, unless you thought that a 25 year old player would continue improving.

Lou Lamoriello isn't our GM anymore lol.

 

[TorontoTrades]

Zaitsev is a #4 Dman. Alzner was waived.

 

[Funk21]

Terrible, as said one can still play the other waived.

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[ole ole]

Zaitsev is a #4 Dman. Alzner was waived.

No 4 on the Leafs yes. Pretty sure Alzner could be a #4 on the Leafs also.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Ya true my bad. The Leafs should at least throw in a later draft pick.

Or, you know, not swap a bad D-men playing at a position of need for a bad D-man at a position of strength.

 

[MisterT]

No 4 on the Leafs yes. Pretty sure Alzner could be a #4 on the Leafs also.

Why? He couldn’t play top 6 on the inferior Habs.

 

[Randy Randerson]

I'd rather have $4.5M in the lineup than $4.6M in the minors

 

[Joel Ward]

Doesn't make any sense for the Leafs. Zaitsev appears to be a superior player at this point, is younger, cheaper, and a right shot. While they save on term with Alzner (who is 125k more expensive), it is irrelevant because they need the cap space next season, not in 2022-23

 

[Just Linda]

Both teams say no.

Alzner is dead cap space on the Leafs. Doesn't crack the roster and has no value to them.

Zaitsev has more term than Alzner but is at least usable in Toronto. Montreal has depth on the right so don't need him and wouldn't take his term.

Toronto could likely find a taker for Zaitsev but the Habs ain't that team.

 

[SHANNYPLAN]

I still think Zaitsev is a capable #4 Dman.

Hes also Right Handed.

Easy No

 

[Revelation]

Toronto's left side becomes

Rielly
Gardiner
Dermott
Hainsey
Alzner
Marincin
Ozhiganov

Montreal's right side becomes

Weber
Petry
Juulsen
Zaitsev
Lernout

please do this lmao

 

[tgo0]

As a neutral fan this is bad for the leafs.

The only question I’d pose to leaf fans who have a better understanding of their cap situation than I do, is would making this deal (in the offseason)to bury alzner in the AHL make any sense? Open up $4.5M cap space for upcoming deals or a FA upgrade around the same $?

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Zaitsev is a #4 Dman. Alzner was waived.

Lmao Zaitsev is NOT a top 4 dman

 

[Brian23]

As a neutral fan this is bad for the leafs.

The only question I’d pose to leaf fans who have a better understanding of their cap situation than I do, is would making this deal (in the offseason)to bury alzner in the AHL make any sense? Open up $4.5M cap space for upcoming deals or a FA upgrade around the same $?

There's no way they can bury his cap hit in the minors. I think at the very best it'd be 75% of his cap hit, but I think it's 100% being in the top X amount of contract on the team. Isn't it like top 20 contracts always count against the cap, no matter what?

 

[Hostile Offer]

Meh, both are useless for the Habs. Pass solely because of Zaitsev's term. Gotta think the Leafs pass just as easily though. Nothing to see here.

 

[glucker]

No 4 on the Leafs yes. Pretty sure Alzner could be a #4 on the Leafs also.

On the Marlies, maybe. Even then, not likely.

 

[glucker]

There's no way they can bury his cap hit in the minors. I think at the very best it'd be 75% of his cap hit, but I think it's 100% being in the top X amount of contract on the team. Isn't it like top 20 contracts always count against the cap, no matter what?

I think 900k gets removed when a guy making more than that is waived.

 

[Liferleafer]

As a neutral fan this is bad for the leafs.

The only question I’d pose to leaf fans who have a better understanding of their cap situation than I do, is would making this deal (in the offseason)to bury alzner in the AHL make any sense? Open up $4.5M cap space for upcoming deals or a FA upgrade around the same $?

Gardiner is an UFA, he's probably gone....if we move Zaitsev for a guy we are burying in the minors....the Leafs may need me to play D, and nobody wants to see that.