Blue Jays Discussion: Alright, we have a manager now. So it's back to patiently waiting for Vlad Jr.

[phillipmike]

I’m liking the M’s moves this offseason so far. Crawford+ for Segura would be another solid move.

 

[phillipmike]

 

[TheOtherSide]

Any guesses on what this is about?

 

[Cor]

Any guesses on what this is about?

Interesting.

 

[Cor]

Any guesses on what this is about?

Tried some searching and people’s guesses are JA Happ re-signing or something to do with the Jays WinterFest

 

[theaub]

No chance they tease a player personnel move.

Probably the winter caravan or something.

 

[TheTotalPackage]

I'm moreso wondering if there is anything to be read into the fact that they are using Pillar of all players to tease the announcement.

 

[Discoverer]

No chance they tease a player personnel move.

Probably the winter caravan or something.

The only personnel move I could see being teased with something like that would be an extension to a current player, which makes me nervous because Pillar is the one they're showing. Maybe they avoided arbitration with him or something, but most likely it'll be something really boring not related to the on-field product.

 

[Discoverer]

Or let's do everyone's favourite thing and read way too much into it: Pillar pointing up means they're going to announce that someone is being added to the Level of Excellence. I want to guess Gibby, but that's a stretch since he's not actually retired. So... uh... Bautista signs one of those one-day deals to retire with the Jays, announces his retirement, and the Jays announce he's being added to the Level of Excellence this year.

Actually, that would be so much fun. It'll be way more boring than that.

 

[theaub]

'Jays hire new accountant from Indians'

 

[Woodman19]

What's the surprise?

 

[Discoverer]

What's the surprise?

Some promotions and ticket prices and stuff. Really, really boring.

 

[GoonieFace]

4 tickets and chickens fingers to some games for $133. Or Pillar will be playing Quagmire in the Broadway Musical of Family Guy.

 

[Amadeus]

Some promotions and ticket prices and stuff. Really, really boring.

What a fail.

 

[trellaine201]

I think this? I’m a bit unclear.

Ticket Offers

 

[Eyedea]

I’m liking the M’s moves this offseason so far. Crawford+ for Segura would be another solid move.

Honestly that’s a light return for a 4-5 win guy with above average to elite defence at a premium position that can easily string some 20-20s in the NL East. But, I’m pretty sure his character has been called to question numerous times, and whatever frustrations he had with the Mariners likely culminated with the send off of his good friend Cano.

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

I’m liking the M’s moves this offseason so far. Crawford+ for Segura would be another solid move.

Depends on the +. Crawford can't hit and they have to swallow Santana's contract.

 

[theaub]

Some promotions and ticket prices and stuff. Really, really boring.

13 years of the TorStar pass really did ruin any chance of enthusiasm with slightly discounted tickets.

 

[phillipmike]

Honestly that’s a light return for a 4-5 win guy with above average to elite defence at a premium position that can easily string some 20-20s in the NL East. But, I’m pretty sure his character has been called to question numerous times, and whatever frustrations he had with the Mariners likely culminated with the send off of his good friend Cano.

Depends on the +. Crawford can't hit and they have to swallow Santana's contract.

We will see, im still a believer in Crawford. I have a hard time believing that his plate discipline has disappeared last year - career 327 BB to 376 Ks to go with batting left, good defense and ok base running and he hasnt turn 24 yet - 6 years of Crawford at the minimum sounds attractive to me. I would take that over a SS turning 29 who is going to get 60M over the next four years. Not saying Segura isnt good but the trade makes sense to me. Santana's contract isnt pretty but he is still a 2 WAR player and his money is gone in 2 years.

Sounds like Nicasio is going back in the deal too.

Mariners after this deal;

2019: Save 4M
2020: Take on 6M
2021: Save 14.35M
2022: Save 14.85M
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Save roughly 26-27M

Get younger, cheaper and more control. Plus they could retain on Santana and get prospect for him too. Solid switch hitter to an AL team.

 

[theaub]

Ah good to see Marcus Stroman on Twitter taking on [checks notes]...video games?

 

[phillipmike]

 

[ShaneFalco]

Ah good to see Marcus Stroman on Twitter taking on [checks notes]...video games?

Yes stay away from video games kids

 

[Schenn]

Would anyone be interested in Seager from the Mariners if we could somehow unload a Morales, Martin or maybe even Tulo in a deal? Obviously with some other pieces involved.

Or is Seager a lost cause?

 

[phillipmike]

JP Riccardi to the SF Giants as a Senior Advisor.

 

[phillipmike]

This is like our Marlins deal in 2013. Just keeps getting bigger and bigger.